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Post by rogart on Dec 25, 2017 13:43:38 GMT -8
This are so cool. Would like to tinker with one some time. What is the difference between the Poljot and the Sturmanskie movements? seen some cool Sturmanskie watches.
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Post by siralan on Dec 25, 2017 14:58:38 GMT -8
I've just checked my crystal, it has a straight side inner profile (so no lip).
There was no inner spring or shim.
I don't remember any rattle of the rotating inner ring before I stripped the watch down, but to be honest I didn't do much with it.
I haven't re-fitted the crystal yet, but when I have I'll confirm.
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Post by siralan on Dec 25, 2017 15:14:31 GMT -8
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Post by ollie23 on Dec 26, 2017 1:24:56 GMT -8
Great stuff. My sweep second hand had the same problem, and I also have the problem on a Valjoux 7733 watch. What exactly does the staking tool do? What I don’t yet understand is how the barrel is bonded to the hand.
You’re doing amazing work and it’s really helpful that you’re sharing in such detail. Thanks.
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Post by ollie23 on Dec 26, 2017 1:36:52 GMT -8
Could it use a wavy spring like many of the Seikos with a rotating inner bezel, ollie23? If you could measure up we might be able to suggest one. Thanks Tristan. I’ll come back to you on this 👍🏼 |
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Post by siralan on Dec 26, 2017 6:29:25 GMT -8
Does your watch have any kind of shim to fit between the crystal and the inner rotating bezel? Mine came with a heavily bodged crystal that was basically no good, once the AM crystal was fitted it developed a rattle which appears to be the inner bezel moving up and down and rattling against the crystal. The thinnest of rubber gaskets stopped the rattle, but also stopped inner bezel from rotating. In my online research I remember seeing a stripped down one with a very thin metal shim that should be inserted. Can I find one? Can I heck. Have a look at these two pics   The inner dial ring has a step at its outer edge. The case has a lip on the inside, a fraction higher than the step. The crystal sits on top of the lip, overlapping the step of the inner dial ring (and thus keeping it in place). There is no need (with this particular case / crystal combination) for a spring or shim. |
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Post by ollie23 on Dec 26, 2017 8:11:15 GMT -8
Aha. Well, that extra lip on your crystal might be what the AM crystals have missed out, hence the problem my end. It was only a £5 crystal so it might be time for me to try and hunt down a higher quality reproduction.
That gives me a task for the new year as I simply can’t wear the watch with it rattling so much, it drives me crazy.
Thanks again.
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Post by ollie23 on Dec 26, 2017 8:37:56 GMT -8
Excuse the web links but I think I previously purchased one of these: tinyurl.com/ybkg9bkgI might try one of these next but am awaiting a reply from the vendor r.e. the lip. It’s hard to see on the photos: tinyurl.com/y7qmj7vn |
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Post by siralan on Dec 26, 2017 8:47:31 GMT -8
Aha. Well, that extra lip on your crystal might be what the AM crystals have missed out, hence the problem my end. It was only a £5 crystal so it might be time for me to try and hunt down a higher quality reproduction. That gives me a task for the new year as I simply can’t wear the watch with it rattling so much, it drives me crazy. Thanks again. The crystal doesn't have a step (or lip). It has a flat inner and bottom profile. I think the only important dimension is the crystal side wall thickness - too thin and it won't overlap onto the inner dial ring and keep it in place. |
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Post by ollie23 on Dec 26, 2017 8:49:54 GMT -8
Aha. Well, that extra lip on your crystal might be what the AM crystals have missed out, hence the problem my end. It was only a £5 crystal so it might be time for me to try and hunt down a higher quality reproduction. That gives me a task for the new year as I simply can’t wear the watch with it rattling so much, it drives me crazy. Thanks again. The crystal doesn't have a step (or lip). It has a flat inner and bottom profile. I think the only important dimension is the crystal side wall thickness - too thin and it won't overlap onto the inner dial ring and keep it in place. Ah, ok. Thanks. I’ll resend my question to the vendor. |
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Post by ollie23 on Dec 27, 2017 1:06:17 GMT -8
I think the only important dimension is the crystal side wall thickness - too thin and it won't overlap onto the inner dial ring and keep it in place. I’ve been in discussion with a Ukrainian watch seller elsewhere and it seems some of the earlier Okean variants of this Poljot 3133 watch were fitted with a ‘sealing ring’.  Fingers crossed he can help locate me one...... I thought I’d add this info to the thread in case anyone else who’s having the rattle problem finds themselves here. The Okean in question:  Keep up the good work siralan. Your post has helped reenergize me on a watch I’d almost given up on. Respect. |
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Post by Groundhog66 on Dec 27, 2017 16:51:55 GMT -8
Damn, now I want that watch...but I don't think I can afford it.  |
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