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Post by devmartin on Aug 23, 2019 14:28:19 GMT -8
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Post by small on Aug 23, 2019 14:32:41 GMT -8
7001 precedes the 7009 and is the no date version of the 7005 date, and 7006 day/date. The 7009 is dated to about 1978 on, although horseshoe-backs should be done by the 80's it seems they aren't "always". A quick look back I see a reference Seiko book showing the 7005 ending in mid 1976...
I would say someone would have to try real hard with something to show for it, that this was made in '80. I say May 1970, with almost 100% certainty.
Oh and it is incredible looking...
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Post by leffemonster on Aug 23, 2019 14:38:44 GMT -8
I’d hazard a guess at 1980. Nice watch, I’d have it in my collection for sure! I’m also pretty sure there’s no MACV-SOG connection.
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Post by devmartin on Aug 23, 2019 14:45:06 GMT -8
Well I finally found my loupe and I found a faint marking. Says 11/16/77. Cant make out the front portion. So probably 70 then.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 14:54:58 GMT -8
It is most likely from 1980. the 7001 is just the no date version of the 7002 so it wouldn't be from 1970. Nice watch. I've never seen one though
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Post by mattk84 on Aug 23, 2019 16:18:09 GMT -8
I love that dial
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Post by small on Aug 23, 2019 16:40:47 GMT -8
Hey Pete, I thought the 7002 came out with the 7009? in the late 70's per VTA? and the 7001/7005/7006 predate them? The osilating weight on this also has the arrow, same as the 7005/6's the arrow missing on the 7002/9 A link to some 7005 movement photos thewatchspotblog.com/?p=102A link to some 7002 movement photos thewatchspotblog.com/?p=156Both are Date only, but the 7002 came out after the 7005. (I know numerically that shouldn't have happened) I know that the 7006 and 7009 day/dates of those same movements, the 7005 and 7002 respectively and differ only in the way they advance the day of the week. 7009 with a push of the crown and the 7006 IIRC isn't quick set like the 6309 but you have to move back and forth between the 11 and 2 markers? That said the xxx5 and xxx2 are both quickset. Also horseshoe back should have been phased out by 1980, except for a select few 7009 in 1980 and 1981.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 18:26:47 GMT -8
Well I finally found my loupe and I found a faint marking. Says 11/16/77. Cant make out the front portion. So probably 70 then. Well then that lets 1980 out as it couldn't have been serviced before it was made So it must be 1970 then.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 18:52:24 GMT -8
Hey Pete, I thought the 7002 came out with the 7009? in the late 70's per VTA? and the 7001/7005/7006 predate them? The osilating weight on this also has the arrow, same as the 7005/6's the arrow missing on the 7002/9 A link to some 7005 movement photos thewatchspotblog.com/?p=102A link to some 7002 movement photos thewatchspotblog.com/?p=156Both are Date only, but the 7002 came out after the 7005. (I know numerically that shouldn't have happened) I know that the 7006 and 7009 day/dates of those same movements, the 7005 and 7002 respectively and differ only in the way they advance the day of the week. 7009 with a push of the crown and the 7006 IIRC isn't quick set like the 6309 but you have to move back and forth between the 11 and 2 markers? That said the xxx5 and xxx2 are both quickset. Also horseshoe back should have been phased out by 1980, except for a select few 7009 in 1980 and 1981. Since the OP found a service date scratched into the case back of 1977, that makes it a 1970 manufacture. It's just weird that Seiko would jumble up all these calibres
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Post by devmartin on Aug 23, 2019 20:19:44 GMT -8
Awesome 1970 thanks everyone. Glad to finally know more about my $23 Ebay find!
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Post by cobrajet25 on Aug 23, 2019 23:58:54 GMT -8
1970. Seiko had gone from marking backs "RESIST" to marking them "RESISTANT" by 1980.
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Post by huangcjz on Aug 26, 2019 2:42:22 GMT -8
Hey Pete, I thought the 7002 came out with the 7009? in the late 70's per VTA? and the 7001/7005/7006 predate them? The osilating weight on this also has the arrow, same as the 7005/6's the arrow missing on the 7002/9 A link to some 7005 movement photos thewatchspotblog.com/?p=102A link to some 7002 movement photos thewatchspotblog.com/?p=156Both are Date only, but the 7002 came out after the 7005. (I know numerically that shouldn't have happened) I know that the 7006 and 7009 day/dates of those same movements, the 7005 and 7002 respectively and differ only in the way they advance the day of the week. 7009 with a push of the crown and the 7006 IIRC isn't quick set like the 6309 but you have to move back and forth between the 11 and 2 markers? That said the xxx5 and xxx2 are both quickset. Also horseshoe back should have been phased out by 1980, except for a select few 7009 in 1980 and 1981. Since the OP found a service date scratched into the case back of 1977, that makes it a 1970 manufacture. It's just weird that Seiko would jumble up all these calibres I found this table on the order and years of release of the various 7000-series movements: www.watch-wiki.net/index.php?title=Seiko_7000
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Post by Adrian-VTA on Aug 27, 2019 5:30:10 GMT -8
It's 1970.
The earliest examples of the 70 series are from 1969.
The 70 series replaced the 5126, 76xx and anything else low-mid range Daini were making previously.
The 76xx series was moved over to ORIENT and is still made today albeit in a modernised form.
The 70 series became the 7S26 etc.
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Post by jeffrey69 on Aug 28, 2019 13:15:45 GMT -8
Nice Watch. It's May 1970.
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Post by small on Sept 2, 2019 6:53:12 GMT -8
Since the OP found a service date scratched into the case back of 1977, that makes it a 1970 manufacture. It's just weird that Seiko would jumble up all these calibres I found this table on the order and years of release of the various 7000-series movements: www.watch-wiki.net/index.php?title=Seiko_7000That article could use some work.
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Post by bigbluekyle on Nov 3, 2019 19:02:01 GMT -8
Thanks for sharing your Seiko Daini White Dial (No Date) 7001-8009. It certainly looks similar to the Black Dial SOG 7005-8030 but without the Date. The Hands and Case also looks slightly different. I have seen a number of 7001-8009 for sale (in widely varying condition) but they have always been a White Dial. I wonder if the 7001-8009 No Date was ever made with a Black Dial?
Has anyone ever seen a Black Dial (No Date) 7001-8009?
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Post by HiBeat on Nov 4, 2019 6:12:11 GMT -8
Thanks for sharing your Seiko Daini White Dial (No Date) 7001-8009. It certainly looks similar to the Black Dial SOG 7005-8030 but without the Date. The Hands and Case also looks slightly different. I have seen a number of 7001-8009 for sale (in widely varying condition) but they have always been a White Dial. I wonder if the 7001-8009 No Date was ever made with a Black Dial? Has anyone ever seen a Black Dial (No Date) 7001-8009? With your considerable knowledge of military watches please keep us updated as you find out more.
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Post by peenemunde on Nov 4, 2019 13:34:34 GMT -8
Nice Watch. It's May 1970. Exactly
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Post by longbike on Nov 4, 2019 18:03:36 GMT -8
Thanks for sharing your Seiko Daini White Dial (No Date) 7001-8009. It certainly looks similar to the Black Dial SOG 7005-8030 but without the Date. The Hands and Case also looks slightly different. I have seen a number of 7001-8009 for sale (in widely varying condition) but they have always been a White Dial. I wonder if the 7001-8009 No Date was ever made with a Black Dial? Has anyone ever seen a Black Dial (No Date) 7001-8009? Aloha Sir, Hey Kyle in Vietnam that would be a ... ( Sure Kill when seen ). You would be surprise that a White Dial Watch could be see in a Sniper's Scope from a real distance. As far as .... ( Being A MACV-SOG Issued Watch )..... and would be a ...... Never Happen One. Kyle .....Myself I would have seen ...... That Watch through a Scope from a Tree or some where .... REAL EASY. This why we all had and were ..... " Called Painted Faces " , ...... for being out there. Well an no offence OK... The Caucasian Guys ..... had it real bad with their ..... Skin Color to be covered so as not to be seen. They had to really plaster that stuff on for to be covered. They had to cover themselves all the way down their neck and into their clothing to rally be darkened out. If one did not ...... " Paint Up Real Good " .... other would not like to be really around them and be a .... " Sitting Ducks ". I have only seen in my time in Vietnam .... White Dial Watch's on one ..... LTJG Officer on a .... PCF Patrol Boat that came out of .... Dan Nang Air Base to the ..... Vaung Tau River Bay Base / and one .... Black Pony Chopper Pilot that ..... Had One .... when he landed on one of ... The Army Barges to refuel. ________________________________ Note: They are trying to pass them ..... White Dial Watch's up on ..... The Bay a lot and fooling a lot of Buyers too. ( Hope This Help A Little ) Aloha Louis
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