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Post by seikonewbi on Oct 28, 2019 10:03:04 GMT -8
Hi forum I just bought this and want to share some of the pics from the seller. Its been polished a lot I think but will see when it arrives. I think and hope the dial is as crisp as it looks but always a chance before it goes under the magnifying eye. It's been serviced, refurbished and put away according to seller. I will share more when I collect   |
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Post by Deegz on Oct 28, 2019 17:40:58 GMT -8
Beautiful watch!! Definitely on my wish list. I don’t know much about authenticating these but forum members here will chime in I’m sure. Looks amazing to me  Congrats on the purchase!! All the best! |
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Post by monaco on Oct 28, 2019 22:08:56 GMT -8
unfortunately that is an AM dial and the watch is likely to be full of AM parts.
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Post by seikonewbi on Oct 29, 2019 5:04:25 GMT -8
Hi Monaco.. how can you tell its an AM dial?
And thanks😀
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Post by doomguy10011 on Oct 29, 2019 21:22:12 GMT -8
Hi Monaco.. how can you tell its an AM dial? And thanks😀 I think the telltale giveaway is that the minute markers on the sub-dial don’t fully extend to the edge of the sub-dial. That and the fonts would be slightly different on the AM dials - usually thicker and spaced differently from the original. |
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Post by seikonewbi on Oct 30, 2019 3:50:58 GMT -8
Thank you doomguy10011 I see what you mean about the markers😀. Nice to get an answer I can use instead of a very short one😀
So thanks doomguy10011 and not soo much monaco
Cheers
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Post by cobrajet25 on Oct 30, 2019 5:25:50 GMT -8
I wouldn't sweat the dial too much. Yes, it is probably aftermarket. But it is one of the better ones. Many aftermarket dials from even five years ago look like they were made by a junior high school art student.
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Post by monaco on Oct 30, 2019 6:35:06 GMT -8
Thank you doomguy10011 I see what you mean about the markers😀. Nice to get an answer I can use instead of a very short one😀 So thanks doomguy10011 and not soo much monaco Cheers sorry the picture was quite blurry, but ive seen this listing on ebay multiple times. the lume triangle on the rotating ring isnt correct and the seiko logo doesnt have the flat surface that an original dial has. but cobrajet is correct, these dials are some of the better AM ones which i guess can be seen as both a good and bad thing. Makes them much harder to spot and thus sellers are getting away with marketing them as originals. |
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Post by seikonewbi on Oct 30, 2019 7:02:36 GMT -8
Thx monaco nice to know you've seen the listing before.
I am strongly considering not following through with the deal... I know its bad manners but I can't enjoy a AM dial. Sorry Cobrajet!!!
im new and must learn all over... Im off fleabay for watch purchases from this instance on.
How do you all feel about this matter? I guess most of us have tried to be bedazzled or mislead in a bay listing? Should I man up and pay even though I feel its not right? or should I just do what is best for my wallet?
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Post by mikeyt on Oct 30, 2019 7:39:29 GMT -8
Thx monaco nice to know you've seen the listing before. I am strongly considering not following through with the deal... I know its bad manners but I can't enjoy a AM dial. Sorry Cobrajet!!! im new and must learn all over... Im off fleabay for watch purchases from this instance on. How do you all feel about this matter? I guess most of us have tried to be bedazzled or mislead in a bay listing? Should I man up and pay even though I feel its not right? or should I just do what is best for my wallet? This all brings up a point that needs to be made once in a while: Ask for guidance before you commit to spending your money. A post in the Seiko or Feiko thread will bring answers in good time. |
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Post by kue on Oct 30, 2019 10:38:50 GMT -8
Thx monaco nice to know you've seen the listing before. I am strongly considering not following through with the deal... I know its bad manners but I can't enjoy a AM dial. Sorry Cobrajet!!! im new and must learn all over... Im off fleabay for watch purchases from this instance on. How do you all feel about this matter? I guess most of us have tried to be bedazzled or mislead in a bay listing? Should I man up and pay even though I feel its not right? or should I just do what is best for my wallet? We have all been there. I have also seen this listing before and the case has been polished hard. If you don't want it then just ask for it to be cancelled. They would rather relist than mess around and risk bad feedback. Anytime you hear claims of servicing then ask for proof and by whom, even an email something. No watchmaker is going to replace a dial and bezel with aftermarket without instruction or permission. Words like "restored" and "refurbished" should be red flags. And don't fall for "found in a drawer" and "in my possession for 20 years" blah blah. My philosophy is that I can live with mechanical problems because a £100-250 service will sort it, but you can't easily and cheaply replace a dial, bezels, etc. |
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Post by seikonewbi on Oct 30, 2019 11:12:54 GMT -8
I have mailed the seller that I would like to cancel the deal so lets see what happens... I guess I will live with bad feedback😩
Thx everybody
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Post by Groundhog66 on Oct 30, 2019 13:04:36 GMT -8
I have mailed the seller that I would like to cancel the deal so lets see what happens... I guess I will live with bad feedback😩 Thx everybody Gotta ask, what's the asking price? |
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Post by seikonewbi on Oct 30, 2019 13:08:17 GMT -8
I have mailed the seller that I would like to cancel the deal so lets see what happens... I guess I will live with bad feedback😩 Thx everybody Gotta ask, what's the asking price? 500 gbp |
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Post by seikonewbi on Oct 30, 2019 13:45:08 GMT -8
I have mailed the seller that I would like to cancel the deal so lets see what happens... I guess I will live with bad feedback😩 Thx everybody Gotta ask, what's the asking price? What do you say about the price? |
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Post by kue on Oct 30, 2019 15:03:11 GMT -8
Too high for what it is. You can expect to pay that and maybe more for a good silver dial.
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Post by seikonewbi on Oct 30, 2019 15:36:13 GMT -8
Too high for what it is. You can expect to pay that and maybe more for a good silver dial. Thx.. I will continue my search instead. |
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Post by cobrajet25 on Oct 31, 2019 0:41:14 GMT -8
I am strongly considering not following through with the deal... I know its bad manners but I can't enjoy a AM dial. Sorry Cobrajet!!!
Pulling the plug on the deal is exactly what I would do...feedback be damned. I didn't know that was still an option for you. GBP500 is too much for that watch.
Just so you know, you should be very suspicious of anyone advertising a silver-dialed 6139-6002 from 1977. It should be in the '70-'74 range for the silver ones, based on what I have seen.
I only have one, and I think it dates to 1972.
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Post by seikonewbi on Oct 31, 2019 1:48:02 GMT -8
Sold as "second chance offer" to another bidder😁.. of the hookand lesson learned.
Guess I have to control myself in keeping my seiko urge in line.. I get clouded in my decisions when I want something.
So enough from me on this silver "SAM", seikoAM or what to call it.☺️
Thx again everyone
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Post by kue on Oct 31, 2019 5:26:53 GMT -8
Sold as "second chance offer" to another bidder😁.. of the hookand lesson learned. Guess I have to control myself in keeping my seiko urge in line.. I get clouded in my decisions when I want something. So enough from me on this silver "SAM", seikoAM or what to call it.☺️ Thx again everyone Good to hear. Buying vintage Seikos on eBay are a bit of a minefield, there are far fewer good ones than ones loaded with AM parts. There are also fake modern Seikos as well. You can always check out the Buy/Sell/Trade posts here. |
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