Rod
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Post by Rod on Nov 2, 2013 21:46:09 GMT -8
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cartshed
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Post by cartshed on Nov 3, 2013 5:18:25 GMT -8
Now those watches are really groovy & great looking boxes. I've yet to score a decent Bell but would like to. I need to learn a bit more about them before I commit though. Is the Business Bell considered one of the 'better' models ?
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sdoocms
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Post by sdoocms on Nov 3, 2013 6:07:50 GMT -8
Very nice watches!
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Rod
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Post by Rod on Nov 3, 2013 16:31:22 GMT -8
Now those watches are really groovy & great looking boxes. I've yet to score a decent Bell but would like to. I need to learn a bit more about them before I commit though. Is the Business Bell considered one of the 'better' models ? The main issue with BellMatics is that you can swap dials, rotating rings between models so there are lots of franken Bells out there. The two base models are the 4006 (day, date) and the 4005 (date only), the 4006 comes in 17 and 27 Jewel varieties the 4005 27 jewel only. There is a rarer 4006 that has only 21 Jewels that was made for the American market. Be very careful buying these as they are often rebuilt frankens. In rarity the Nov 1966 dolphin case back 4006 is extremely rare, I know of only 5 and have been collecting serial numbers and info on these for 10 years now. Mine is the second oldest I have found. These have the Diashock 27 jewel on the dial and the dolphin case back and the notched case for the alarm button. Then the 1966 Dec - Jan 1967 Diashock dial without the dolphin case back The 21 jewel 4006-7019 would have to come next, 7 digit serial number (pre 1968) and very few seen, but they do come up for sale. The 4006-7010 (generally from June-july 1967) Business Bell would be number four. Hard to find in good condition outside of Japan, strangely the all have an English only day wheel! Lastly any of the 4005 models would come next. These 4006/4005 movements are considered to be one of Seiko's greatest movements and are super reliable and keep excellent time. Hope this helps
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cd_god
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Post by cd_god on Nov 3, 2013 16:37:53 GMT -8
That is a great Dolphin caseback.
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Rod
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Post by Rod on Nov 3, 2013 16:38:03 GMT -8
Now those watches are really groovy & great looking boxes. I've yet to score a decent Bell but would like to. I need to learn a bit more about them before I commit though. Is the Business Bell considered one of the 'better' models ? On the front of the box and case it reads, "Seiko Business BellMatic" so cool!
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cartshed
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Post by cartshed on Nov 4, 2013 2:02:38 GMT -8
Now those watches are really groovy & great looking boxes. I've yet to score a decent Bell but would like to. I need to learn a bit more about them before I commit though. Is the Business Bell considered one of the 'better' models ? The main issue with BellMatics is that you can swap dials, rotating rings between models so there are lots of franken Bells out there. The two base models are the 4006 (day, date) and the 4005 (date only), the 4006 comes in 17 and 27 Jewel varieties the 4005 27 jewel only. There is a rarer 4006 that has only 21 Jewels that was made for the American market. Be very careful buying these as they are often rebuilt frankens. In rarity the Nov 1966 dolphin case back 4006 is extremely rare, I know of only 5 and have been collecting serial numbers and info on these for 10 years now. Mine is the second oldest I have found. These have the Diashock 27 jewel on the dial and the dolphin case back and the notched case for the alarm button. Then the 1966 Dec - Jan 1967 Diashock dial without the dolphin case back The 21 jewel 4006-7019 would have to come next, 7 digit serial number (pre 1968) and very few seen, but they do come up for sale. The 4006-7010 (generally from June-july 1967) Business Bell would be number four. Hard to find in good condition outside of Japan, strangely the all have an English only day wheel! Lastly any of the 4005 models would come next. These 4006/4005 movements are considered to be one of Seiko's greatest movements and are super reliable and keep excellent time. Hope this helps Thanks for your info which is a great help. I better jot some of this down. The issue of Frankens is something that's held me back, I better start doing some proper research soon. I don't know the model number but there is a Bell with a huge case that I've always liked the look of but this could be one of those watches that look good in photos but wrong on the wrist. Now I've seen some photos of yours, I think I'll concentrate on getting something with a more classical case design. Cheers
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serdal22
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Post by serdal22 on Nov 4, 2013 3:32:02 GMT -8
Beautiful Bells you have!
I also noticed the notch where the alarm push button is on the Dolphin Bell. It is beautiful!
I had a Bell and I loved that alarm, both buzzing sound and vibration. I need another one now!
Wear them in the best of health . . .
Capt. Serdal
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