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Post by horacehenn on Feb 10, 2024 1:38:16 GMT -8
70 Proof J13.083 Seikomatic Self Dater from 1963
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Post by horacehenn on Feb 10, 2024 2:11:03 GMT -8
The “clam” box. Very rare - I’ve only seen a couple of these. Great instruction manual too with the same shape (I can’t think of another Seiko one that’s shaped). Ps - Sportsmatic rather than Sportsman
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Post by SeikoSoMatic on Feb 10, 2024 2:23:52 GMT -8
Amazing!👌🏻
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Post by horacehenn on Feb 15, 2024 6:16:38 GMT -8
I wish I could find better photos of this box, looks like the 50m Silverwave one:
I picked up one today on yahoo! Box, outerbox and manual
Ill add some photos tomorrow
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Post by horacehenn on Feb 15, 2024 6:25:07 GMT -8
Really jealous of the Vanac and the 9983 in particular.
Soon after I started buying from Y!.jp a while back, I won an auction for two Vanacs w/ box and papers. Of course it was a scam, and a few weeks later Buyee refunded my monies. I keep my eyes out, and while I see Vanac boxes fairly often (though usually without the outer sleeve), I have not seen them mated with their watches. And the 9983 - wow! I would be hard pressed to pass on that if I saw it up for bid.
The Vanac boxes do come up on there from time to time, but the outerboxes less so. The instruction manuals are more rare, as are the price tags
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Post by inboost on Feb 15, 2024 6:31:40 GMT -8
horacehenn, I'm terribly curious how you find these incredible completed sets. I'm not a collector in this way, but I can certainly appreciate the level of intensity you must have to curate such gems. Considering the crisp and clean nature we've seen so far I'm guessing more often than not you are actually finding them complete? Or is it that you come across the various pieces and have to hunt to assemble the set? They are simply lovely, and if your museum had visiting hours and I was near by I'd buy a ticket for sure!
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Post by horacehenn on Feb 16, 2024 5:24:21 GMT -8
horacehenn , I'm terribly curious how you find these incredible completed sets. I'm not a collector in this way, but I can certainly appreciate the level of intensity you must have to curate such gems. Considering the crisp and clean nature we've seen so far I'm guessing more often than not you are actually finding them complete? Or is it that you come across the various pieces and have to hunt to assemble the set? They are simply lovely, and if your museum had visiting hours and I was near by I'd buy a ticket for sure! I never buy them as a set - the prices that others are willing to pay is far more than I would. I buy all the different parts separately, often buying the box first! Tags and manuals sometimes then come up in job lots on the auction sites. It takes a long time, with some, to put them all together but its something I enjoy doing. I also think its nice that hopefully other people will then keep them together, as they were when they were sold 5-60 years ago, after I pop my clogs
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Post by horacehenn on Feb 16, 2024 5:27:25 GMT -8
A few new ones that Ive managed to get my hands on....starting with a 1960 Champion 30m which Ive got a nice J13040 to go in
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Post by horacehenn on Feb 16, 2024 5:29:09 GMT -8
GS 43999 / GS 57
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Post by horacehenn on Feb 16, 2024 5:37:45 GMT -8
...and one that I very excited about getting - a near NOS Silverwave set for the J12082 (often referred to as the first Seiko diver - although I dont personally agree). There is also a clam shaped version of this box, shown elsewhere in this thread, which I think is possibly a later design as it is very similar to the later 69799 30m Silverwave. Ive got a couple of these J12082's (plain white and starburst dial) with Simon Wilkinson, so itll be nice to make up the set
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Post by inboost on Feb 16, 2024 6:02:25 GMT -8
horacehenn, I agree 100% that your efforts in putting them back together makes them something really special! I'm usually frustrated to no end just trying to find the correct bracelet for a watch. I can't even imagine the patience and effort you must have put into building these complete sets. I am so very much impressed!
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Post by gerald on Feb 16, 2024 18:20:00 GMT -8
GS 43999 / GS 57
Just a heads-up that whilst that is the correct box for the 57GS series, I do not believe it is the correct manual. I believe that is the manual for the Liner Chronometer (or possibly the KS?). There are two manuals with the 57GS set. The first is similar to the one shown, but the "Chronometer" text is in a regular, not Gothic font. It details the Chronometer inspection standard in both Japanese and English. The second manual has Seiko Chronometer printed up top in gold (with - rather confusingly - Chronometer in the Gothic font), and Grand Seiko Self Dater 35J printed below. Its contents are in Japanese only, and detail the functional aspects of the watch, and some technical background.
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Post by horacehenn on Feb 19, 2024 8:28:34 GMT -8
King Seiko 44999 - first of the second models. Different to first box, card and manual. The outer boxes for these are pretty scarce
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Post by horacehenn on Feb 19, 2024 8:31:51 GMT -8
GS 43999 / GS 57
Just a heads-up that whilst that is the correct box for the 57GS series, I do not believe it is the correct manual. I believe that is the manual for the Liner Chronometer (or possibly the KS?). There are two manuals with the 57GS set. The first is similar to the one shown, but the "Chronometer" text is in a regular, not Gothic font. It details the Chronometer inspection standard in both Japanese and English. The second manual has Seiko Chronometer printed up top in gold (with - rather confusingly - Chronometer in the Gothic font), and Grand Seiko Self Dater 35J printed below. Its contents are in Japanese only, and detail the functional aspects of the watch, and some technical background.Thanks Gerald - I'll take a look when it arrives and let you know. I've got the first manual that you mention, but not the second
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Post by twhp101 on Mar 13, 2024 9:20:09 GMT -8
Not sure this is quite vintage yet, but it's a 5M23-6A09 from June '94
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Post by scubarob99 on Mar 13, 2024 9:24:12 GMT -8
Couple of 70s LCDs Rob
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Post by horacehenn on Mar 26, 2024 5:38:31 GMT -8
Does anyone know which model this box goes with? I picked it up a few days ago but haven't seen one before. I think the "ball bearing device" description is possibly referring to the six ball bearings found in the oscillating weight bearing assembly (ruby rather than steel) of the Cal 395 ? I know that its not correct for the J13085 / J13060 as Ive got the correct box for that, so what about either the 6216-9000 or the J13.083 ?
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Post by gerald on Mar 26, 2024 18:04:09 GMT -8
Not entirely sure that is the correct box for the A239. One would expect that the box would be big enough to hold the manual without folding. I have seen multiple examples of full sets of this reference (and own one). The box one usually sees is significantly wider, and the inside of the lid is blue. Example here (I think you can view this without a subscription to the site) - aucview.aucfan.com/yahoo/f1037639073/
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Post by horacehenn on Mar 27, 2024 5:36:36 GMT -8
Not entirely sure that is the correct box for the A239. One would expect that the box would be big enough to hold the manual without folding. I have seen multiple examples of full sets of this reference (and own one). The box one usually sees is significantly wider, and the inside of the lid is blue. Example here (I think you can view this without a subscription to the site) - aucview.aucfan.com/yahoo/f1037639073/I posted a World Time digi box on page 2 of the tread
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Post by gerald on Mar 27, 2024 22:01:35 GMT -8
Not entirely sure that is the correct box for the A239. One would expect that the box would be big enough to hold the manual without folding. I have seen multiple examples of full sets of this reference (and own one). The box one usually sees is significantly wider, and the inside of the lid is blue. Example here (I think you can view this without a subscription to the site) - aucview.aucfan.com/yahoo/f1037639073/I posted a World Time digi box on page 2 of the tread That's an interesting one. Is the watch JDM or overseas? (FWIW, I've just taken a look through the 100 highest priced A239's to sell on Yahoo Japan in the last decade. The box that is in the example I linked to is seen 6 times. Others - one example as in Rob's post above (maybe it's the same watch), and two other (small - too small for the manual) boxes seen. Wondering whether your one was an export variant?)
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