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Post by HiBeat on Feb 22, 2015 16:25:30 GMT -8
I take it 7005 and 7009 are day date derivatives of the 7002? The 7005 is a durable, simple quick-set date-only movement. I love them. The 7006 is the day + date extension of the excellent 7005. It is a non-quick set day of week with quick set date. The 7025 is basically a smaller caliber 7005, give or take. The 7001 and 7002 are very similar, not sure how they differ from the 7005 exactly, but the 7002 is a 7001 with date. The 7009 is then the next version that introduced quick-set day of week by pushing in the crown as so many SEIKO movements feature. As pointed out above subtle changes include the 3:18 date position so it's The 7019 is the 21 Jewel variant of the 7009. You'll see them every now and then. I read about the 7039 with is a 21J 7019 built to a higher standard, but have never seen one. The 7015 chrono is basically a 7009 with the start/stop sweep second hand chrono added to it. The 7016 is a 7015 with the 30 min subdial timer added to it. My goal is to some day have owned at some time at least one of each I've owned but sold a few 7006's and 7025's along the way. and I am down to 1 working and 1 project 7009. I have a bunch of 7005's, including a project that I am about to finish and will post pix. All in all a great under-appreciated part of vintage SEIKO successes. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2015 17:30:47 GMT -8
I take it 7005 and 7009 are day date derivatives of the 7002? The 7005 is a durable, simple quick-set date-only movement. I love them. The 7006 is the day + date extension of the excellent 7005. It is a non-quick set day of week with quick set date. The 7025 is basically a smaller caliber 7005, give or take.The 7001 and 7002 are very similar, not sure how they differ from the 7005 exactly, but the 7002 is a 7001 with date. The 7009 is then the next version that introduced quick-set day of week by pushing in the crown as so many SEIKO movements feature. As pointed out above subtle changes include the 3:18 date position so it's The 7019 is the 21 Jewel variant of the 7009. You'll see them every now and then. I read about the 7039 with is a 21J 7019 built to a higher standard, but have never seen one. The 7015 chrono is basically a 7009 with the start/stop sweep second hand chrono added to it. The 7016 is a 7015 with the 30 min subdial timer added to it. My goal is to some day have owned at some time at least one of each I've owned but sold a few 7006's and 7025's along the way. and I am down to 1 working and 1 project 7009. I have a bunch of 7005's, including a project that I am about to finish and will post pix. All in all a great under-appreciated part of vintage SEIKO successes. This may explain why the casing numbers for the 7005-8052 and the 7025-8099 where the external case looks to be identical. After looking through the PDF tech files for these calibres, it appears that Seiko thinks they are all 27mm wide. Don't know why you thought the 7025 might be smaller? |
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Post by HiBeat on Feb 22, 2015 19:47:53 GMT -8
The 7005 is a durable, simple quick-set date-only movement. I love them. The 7006 is the day + date extension of the excellent 7005. It is a non-quick set day of week with quick set date. The 7025 is basically a smaller caliber 7005, give or take.This may explain why the casing numbers for the 7005-8052 and the 7025-8099 where the external case looks to be identical. After looking through the PDF tech files for these calibres, it appears that Seiko thinks they are all 27mm wide. Don't know why you thought the 7025 might be smaller?I've had a few 7025's and the rotor is definitely smaller, which allows for smaller 34 mm cases. I have one now but can't spin the back off, when I get my new case back holder I hope to conquer the beast and then I can measure. I agree the bulk of the movement looks identical. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 12:39:54 GMT -8
This may explain why the casing numbers for the 7005-8052 and the 7025-8099 where the external case looks to be identical. After looking through the PDF tech files for these calibres, it appears that Seiko thinks they are all 27mm wide. Don't know why you thought the 7025 might be smaller?I've had a few 7025's and the rotor is definitely smaller, which allows for smaller 34 mm cases. I have one now but can't spin the back off, when I get my new case back holder I hope to conquer the beast and then I can measure. I agree the bulk of the movement looks identical. Yes, there are different sizes of rotor but the base movement is the same...unless Seiko specs are wrong. |
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Post by timewatcher on Feb 24, 2015 16:15:48 GMT -8
I have a 7009 real, honest purple dial that I've finally found... now waiting for a case worthy of its purpleness.  Nice find.......whats wrong with that case? Looks fine to me! Send it off off to Tom or Shawn for a re-finish job and it would look brand new! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 16:18:53 GMT -8
I have a 7009 real, honest purple dial that I've finally found... now waiting for a case worthy of its purpleness. Nice find.......whats wrong with that case? Looks fine to me! Send it off off to Tom or Shawn for a re-finish job and it would look brand new!  that original case should clean up pretty sweet  |
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Post by SpinDoctor on Feb 24, 2015 16:31:07 GMT -8
I'm a little late back to this thread but just wanted to say thanks for all the info on these calibers.
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Post by mar52 on Feb 24, 2015 16:35:24 GMT -8
I have a 7009 real, honest purple dial that I've finally found... now waiting for a case worthy of its purpleness. Nice find.......whats wrong with that case? Looks fine to me! Send it off off to Tom or Shawn for a re-finish job and it would look brand new! Really? I was thinking of modding a 6119-6400 like Tom did.... if it would work. Well I'd have Tom do it.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 16:40:17 GMT -8
Nice find.......whats wrong with that case? Looks fine to me! Send it off off to Tom or Shawn for a re-finish job and it would look brand new! Really? I was thinking of modding a 6119-6400 like Tom did.... if it would work. Well I'd have Tom do it. If that's what you like then go for it |
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Post by mar52 on Feb 24, 2015 16:52:01 GMT -8
Really? I was thinking of modding a 6119-6400 like Tom did.... if it would work. Well I'd have Tom do it. If that's what you like then go for it The thing is, as it is it looks more like a man's watch to me. The big 70s cases I can get away with wearing. (I think) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 17:20:19 GMT -8
If that's what you like then go for it The thing is, as it is it looks more like a man's watch to me. The big 70s cases I can get away with wearing. (I think) Good point. The -6400 case would definitely look more in fashion for a lady than the old man's case. What colour bezel would you want with that dial? |
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Post by mar52 on Feb 24, 2015 17:25:31 GMT -8
I'd try to pick up a hue of purple to reinforce it's color.
I bought a few donor watches and even two I received from India are too nice for me to mess with!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 17:48:30 GMT -8
I'd try to pick up a hue of purple to reinforce it's color. I bought a few donor watches and even two I received from India are too nice for me to mess with! If I remember correctly, Jonathan painted or dyed some of those bezels so you could actually match one to the dial |
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Post by stevenjohn on Feb 24, 2015 18:02:17 GMT -8
I'd wear that case. It's all about attitude man!
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Post by earthphase on Feb 24, 2015 19:37:59 GMT -8
1) I found this to be a great thread. Thanks for the insight.
2) you guys are all huge geeks and am proud to be a member here.
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Post by cobrajet25 on Feb 25, 2015 0:28:31 GMT -8
I take it 7005 and 7009 are day date derivatives of the 7002? The 7005 is a durable, simple quick-set date-only movement. I love them. The 7006 is the day + date extension of the excellent 7005. It is a non-quick set day of week with quick set date. The 7025 is basically a smaller caliber 7005, give or take. The 7001 and 7002 are very similar, not sure how they differ from the 7005 exactly, but the 7002 is a 7001 with date. The 7009 is then the next version that introduced quick-set day of week by pushing in the crown as so many SEIKO movements feature. As pointed out above subtle changes include the 3:18 date position so it's The 7019 is the 21 Jewel variant of the 7009. You'll see them every now and then. I read about the 7039 with is a 21J 7019 built to a higher standard, but have never seen one. The 7015 chrono is basically a 7009 with the start/stop sweep second hand chrono added to it. The 7016 is a 7015 with the 30 min subdial timer added to it. My goal is to some day have owned at some time at least one of each I've owned but sold a few 7006's and 7025's along the way. and I am down to 1 working and 1 project 7009. I have a bunch of 7005's, including a project that I am about to finish and will post pix. All in all a great under-appreciated part of vintage SEIKO successes. The 7039 also hacks. Pretty rare movement, and it is the only 70-series movement I know of with a hacking feature. I only have one, and it needs a balance. This balance is apparently used on the 7039 only.  |
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Post by mar52 on Feb 25, 2015 10:31:24 GMT -8
Now that's a purple I really like!
I've purchased a few that looked like that on the computer and when I get them they look almost black, unfortunately.
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that original case should clean up pretty sweet 
