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Post by jringo8769 on Mar 15, 2016 14:02:21 GMT -8
well after taking apart my beloved 71 resist 6139 6005 watch...now i have ran across a problem that is new to me...my stem will not lock in place...it seems like the pusher that u release to take it out is stuck down..anyone else run into this with the 6139b movement?...i am hoping i do not have to full disassemble this...any help will so be appreciated...God Bless John
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Post by tritto on Mar 15, 2016 15:08:24 GMT -8
How are you going John? This sounds like a common problem that occurs with these when you pull the stem out to the time setting position before you then press the release pin. Best to leave the crown in, press release and then pull the crown out to stop the problem. I don't know the terms for the parts that are out of place so I'm just going to describe how to sort it (hopefully). First, get yourself a staple. Straighten it out and bend over the last 1/2 millimetre at a right angle. With the dial up insert the bent end of the staple facing upwards. What you're looking to do is push the first little lever just inside the movement. With any luck you will hear a distinct click and you'll reset the keyless works. Image is an edit from Mike and Polly's guide to servicing a 6139 movement.  It's a little easier to do with the movement out of the case, but that's not essential. This little trick can save you from having to take the hands, dial, date wheel off etc. |
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Post by jringo8769 on Mar 15, 2016 15:44:44 GMT -8
well hello my friend...well this is the same watch i got with the damaged crown and stem a long time ago..well from what i can see it seems like it needs some oil to free it...i am going to place a small amount of oil and see if it frees itself overnight....i have a very small oiler that seems to fit well and i am able to use it to move it back and forth....i will will try the staple...never heard of that...i will keep u updated....thank u again so much for the great info...God Bless John
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Post by tritto on Mar 15, 2016 16:20:29 GMT -8
No guarantees that this will solve your problem, but it's something to try if the oil on the release button doesn't work. I've used the technique successfully for several 6139s and also a 6105 recently.
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Post by Adrian-VTA on Mar 16, 2016 0:29:49 GMT -8
I have had that stem lock plate gum up before around the button pin. SEIKO recommend lubricating this but because of previous issues, I prefer not to. When they gum up you can't get them to click back out again when you've released the stem. Try Tristan's suggestion but if that doesn't work you might need to take the dial off. well hello my friend...well this is the same watch i got with the damaged crown and stem a long time ago..well from what i can see it seems like it needs some oil to free it...i am going to place a small amount of oil and see if it frees itself overnight....i have a very small oiler that seems to fit well and i am able to use it to move it back and forth....i will will try the staple...never heard of that...i will keep u updated....thank u again so much for the great info...God Bless John |
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Post by jringo8769 on Mar 17, 2016 15:42:57 GMT -8
well i a little update...well after much debate....and trying everything suggested...the only thing that finally worked was a little oil..i used a very tiny oiler and used a drop of oil and worked it back and forth till it worked....movement was so clean...maybe too clean that it was binding ...but it works very well now...so thank all of u for the great info....i looked thru all of my movements and i found more like this..so this looks like a good thing after all....God Bless and thank all of u...John
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 18:02:20 GMT -8
well i a little update...well after much debate....and trying everything suggested...the only thing that finally worked was a little oil..i used a very tiny oiler and used a drop of oil and worked it back and forth till it worked....movement was so clean...maybe too clean that it was binding ...but it works very well now...so thank all of u for the great info....i looked thru all of my movements and i found more like this..so this looks like a good thing after all....God Bless and thank all of u...John John, Iève found that when the èpipè is depressed with a screw driver or some flat bladed tool, the barrel that the release pin rides in often gets just enough of a scratch to cause stickage. Dirty coagulated oils can gum up the works but when the thing is newly cleaned, it is usually because the wrong tool has been used. I am happy that you managed to restore the stem function without having to remove the dial, etc.  On a side note; that nice little Seiko ladies diver you sold me is being proudly worn by my daughter in Australia. The dial was a bit of a mess but I mannaged to clean and restore it to the point that I could not see my handy work without a loupe. The gaskets were all replaced and I pressure tested it to 4ATM so itès good to go when she is surfing the big waves on the Gold Coast 7dfe79adc2f0 Thanks again for helping me out. |
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Post by jringo8769 on Mar 18, 2016 18:10:53 GMT -8
well i a little update...well after much debate....and trying everything suggested...the only thing that finally worked was a little oil..i used a very tiny oiler and used a drop of oil and worked it back and forth till it worked....movement was so clean...maybe too clean that it was binding ...but it works very well now...so thank all of u for the great info....i looked thru all of my movements and i found more like this..so this looks like a good thing after all....God Bless and thank all of u...John John, Iève found that when the èpipè is depressed with a screw driver or some flat bladed tool, the barrel that the release pin rides in often gets just enough of a scratch to cause stickage. Dirty coagulated oils can gum up the works but when the thing is newly cleaned, it is usually because the wrong tool has been used. I am happy that you managed to restore the stem function without having to remove the dial, etc. On a side note; that nice little Seiko ladies diver you sold me is being proudly worn by my daughter in Australia. The dial was a bit of a mess but I mannaged to clean and restore it to the point that I could not see my handy work without a loupe. The gaskets were all replaced and I pressure tested it to 4ATM so itès good to go when she is surfing the big waves on the Gold Coast 7dfe79adc2f0 Thanks again for helping me out. well i was thinking about that watch the other day and wondered how it turned out...i am so glad it is back in service....i would love to see some pics when u can...to the 6139...that might be the case with the epipe being stuck...all i used is a old oiler...it seems to fit perfectly and i have used it now for a few years with no problems till this problem watch...i would have much preferred to strip it all down and see what it was wrong...but it runs so nice...i did not want to tackle that yet...and thank u for the kinds words...God Bless John..i am always glad to help u out my friend.... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 18:38:13 GMT -8
John, Iève found that when the èpipè is depressed with a screw driver or some flat bladed tool, the barrel that the release pin rides in often gets just enough of a scratch to cause stickage. Dirty coagulated oils can gum up the works but when the thing is newly cleaned, it is usually because the wrong tool has been used. I am happy that you managed to restore the stem function without having to remove the dial, etc. On a side note; that nice little Seiko ladies diver you sold me is being proudly worn by my daughter in Australia. The dial was a bit of a mess but I mannaged to clean and restore it to the point that I could not see my handy work without a loupe. The gaskets were all replaced and I pressure tested it to 4ATM so itès good to go when she is surfing the big waves on the Gold Coast 7dfe79adc2f0 Thanks again for helping me out. well i was thinking about that watch the other day and wondered how it turned out...i am so glad it is back in service....i would love to see some pics when u can...to the 6139...that might be the case with the epipe being stuck...all i used is a old oiler...it seems to fit perfectly and i have used it now for a few years with no problems till this problem watch...i would have much preferred to strip it all down and see what it was wrong...but it runs so nice...i did not want to tackle that yet...and thank u for the kinds words...God Bless John..i am always glad to help u out my friend.... I know I took several pics before I sent it to my daughter but they seem to be missing from PhotoBucket(happens a lot  ). Maybe I can get her to shoot some pics of the watch in sutu and we can share them |
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