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Post by siralan on Dec 17, 2017 12:12:30 GMT -8
Mainly because I like the look of the movement, but also 'cause I fancied a challenge I recently bought a Poljot chronograph with the 3133 movement.   It was listed as needing a service to correct an issue with the hour/minute hands stopping. Having finished my backlog of watches for other people, I decided today was the day to strip it down and see what was what (or wasn't). I found the reason for the hands stopping:  grrrr. And as I continued the stripdown I found another problem  GRRRR. I also realised at the end that the movement is incomplete - it is missing the finger spring for the minute counting wheel. OK, so mea culpa on that one. I wasn't familiar with this movement (but I soon will be) so didn't spot this in the listing picture. These issues aside, the movement is in good condition (I think) and when its all cleaned up and the crystal polished it should run well and look nice. Tomorrow I'll set about cleaning everything (its been heavily over oiled).  So, I now need to source the parts needed. Worst case this will involve buying a donor. When I make progress I'll post some pictures. |
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Post by pip on Dec 17, 2017 12:15:34 GMT -8
These Poljot's are good looking chrono's in my book, they're kind of on my long list but if one pops up at the right money.... So I'm very much looking forward to following your progress on this Simon so I can refer to it when I eventually score one.
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Post by tritto on Dec 17, 2017 12:35:46 GMT -8
If I remember rightly, the 3133 is a clone of the valjoux 7734. Would it be easier/cheaper to search for 7734 parts than it would be to buy a 3133 donor?
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Post by rogart on Dec 17, 2017 13:47:21 GMT -8
Cousinsuk have a few parts for the 3133. Hour wheel was obsolete unfortunately  . Must be parts out there . |
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Post by ollie23 on Dec 17, 2017 14:05:07 GMT -8
I have the Okean variant dial of this watch. The Russians did an unabashed copy of the Valjoux 7734 for the 3133 movement and mine had a Valjoux part directly swapped into it no probs. Cousins UK for parts.
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Post by ollie23 on Dec 17, 2017 14:20:13 GMT -8
If it makes you feel any better my movement had been messed up too. I think the Russian military serviced them with WD40, brute force ignorance.
It means you have a genuine Russian watch when they’re that badly maintained 😜
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Post by ausimax on Dec 17, 2017 19:01:16 GMT -8
I'm interested to see the result of this resto, I have been trying to get hold of a Swiss style chrono to pull down and see how they work, trouble is they are always too expensive for my purpose, it would actually be cheaper to buy an Alpha with a Seagull movement than a clapped out Swiss watch.
The Seiko 6319 seem so simple in comparison with the Swiss chrono.
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Post by small on Dec 17, 2017 19:07:57 GMT -8
Those seem to be far more popular on that side of the pond then over here. I sold one I'd gotten in a lot to England, only other interest was from there too. Not a single bite from the sates...
Good luck with the project look forward to your progress report.
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Post by Groundhog66 on Dec 18, 2017 8:49:02 GMT -8
I'm a sucker for the Swiss chrono, very much looking forward to seeing this one get sorted.
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Post by rob3rto on Dec 18, 2017 9:42:27 GMT -8
Mainly because I like the look of the movement, but also 'cause I fancied a challenge I recently bought a Poljot chronograph with the 3133 movement. It was listed as needing a service to correct an issue with the hour/minute hands stopping. Having finished my backlog of watches for other people, I decided today was the day to strip it down and see what was what (or wasn't). I found the reason for the hands stopping: grrrr. And as I continued the stripdown I found another problem GRRRR. I also realised at the end that the movement is incomplete - it is missing the finger spring for the minute counting wheel. OK, so mea culpa on that one. I wasn't familiar with this movement (but I soon will be) so didn't spot this in the listing picture. These issues aside, the movement is in good condition (I think) and when its all cleaned up and the crystal polished it should run well and look nice. Tomorrow I'll set about cleaning everything (its been heavily over oiled). So, I now need to source the parts needed. Worst case this will involve buying a donor. When I make progress I'll post some pictures. So it was YOU that outbid me!! :mad: :mad:  I was gonna then send it to George to repair and service. It was to be my first 3133 |
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Post by siralan on Dec 18, 2017 10:21:45 GMT -8
'twas me.
I was hoping that it only needed a stripdown service but the broken/missing parts look like they will be costly to find. But, its still looking like a good watch is lurking.
I found George's website during my 'research' phase.
I suspect I'll end up buying at least one more of these.
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Post by siralan on Dec 23, 2017 11:07:21 GMT -8
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Post by Benchdweller on Dec 24, 2017 10:52:40 GMT -8
The chronograph driving wheel separates from the third wheel and will allow you to clean the jewel properly. It's a friction fit and it's worth buying one of these if you plan to be working on more of these movements. |
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Post by siralan on Dec 24, 2017 13:56:54 GMT -8
Interesting. Thanks for the good tip.
I guess its re-fitted with a staking tool? How do you know how far to press it on?
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Post by pip on Dec 24, 2017 14:27:44 GMT -8
I’ve been through your thread on TWF and wow, that’s what I call a write up. I need to up my game! Joking aside, absolutely excellent write up, probably the best I’ve seen.
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Post by Benchdweller on Dec 24, 2017 16:51:04 GMT -8
Interesting. Thanks for the good tip. I guess its re-fitted with a staking tool? How do you know how far to press it on? I use a hand fitting press although you could use any number of things. It usually goes back to the same place but you need to check how high it sits in relation to the coupling wheel once all the chrono parts are fitted. |
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Post by rogart on Dec 25, 2017 2:38:05 GMT -8
I’ve been through your thread on TWF and wow, that’s what I call a write up. I need to up my game! Joking aside, absolutely excellent write up, probably the best I’ve seen. TWF=Thumb wrestling forum? |
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Post by siralan on Dec 25, 2017 2:49:57 GMT -8
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Post by ollie23 on Dec 25, 2017 12:20:47 GMT -8
Does your watch have any kind of shim to fit between the crystal and the inner rotating bezel?
Mine came with a heavily bodged crystal that was basically no good, once the AM crystal was fitted it developed a rattle which appears to be the inner bezel moving up and down and rattling against the crystal. The thinnest of rubber gaskets stopped the rattle, but also stopped inner bezel from rotating.
In my online research I remember seeing a stripped down one with a very thin metal shim that should be inserted. Can I find one? Can I heck.
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Post by tritto on Dec 25, 2017 13:25:37 GMT -8
Could it use a wavy spring like many of the Seikos with a rotating inner bezel, ollie23? If you could measure up we might be able to suggest one. |
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. Must be parts out there . 
