mncz
Timekeeper
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Post by mncz on Mar 7, 2018 4:18:25 GMT -8
Does anybody have any knowledge of what comes of winning such an auction? How does the mitigation process work in the end?
This issue doesn’t appear to have slowed down, perhaps having become increasingly prevalent.
Listings that already ended months ago are ending up simultaneously in place both on eBay and YJP.
Apart from what bombora noted about a buyer having left negative feedback exposing a fraudulent auction, do we know what to expect if one ends up on top of one of these fake sales? I imagine a full refund is obvious, but do we have to fight for it? Most of the proxies have pretty substantial customer service practices, so in the end is this any more than a ploy to get people excited and bidding and driving up prices even when product isn’t available? The consequences would then be that the whole process just wastes time and ties money up temporarily. Otherwise, it is rather innocuous. That depends on how bothered you are but the realization that you may never know for sure if you’re bidding on something that is actually available!
The alternative is to check concluded sales history for the occurrence of every piece you bid on, but AFAIK, these records only remain available for a few months (5-6?)) after end. The consequence is that it is now impossible to confidently determine the authenticity of an auction that you’re interested in, unless you maintain a database of every relevant sale starting from as early as possible (not a poor idea for a project, especially if this can be automated), and only bid on items which do not appear in this dataset.
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Post by bombora on Mar 8, 2018 3:32:46 GMT -8
Use discretion and buy from sellers with decent feedback is the way to go. I have my own database within the EAJ website, my watchlist. It is about 120 pages worth now. It stores added items forever i think.
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khd
Can't Tell Time
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Post by khd on Mar 8, 2018 5:37:59 GMT -8
Use discretion and buy from sellers with decent feedback is the way to go. I have my own database within the EAJ website, my watchlist. It is about 120 pages worth now. It stores added items forever i think. I've been thinking of purchasing from Yahoo Japan using a reseller but have never done it before... do you find the Easy Auction Japan service good to use? I've been thinking about using Buyee but I'd love to hear if there's a better reseller out there
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pip
WS Benefactor
Berkshire, UK
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Post by pip on Mar 8, 2018 12:42:30 GMT -8
Does anybody have any knowledge of what comes of winning such an auction? How does the mitigation process work in the end? This issue doesn’t appear to have slowed down, perhaps having become increasingly prevalent. Listings that already ended months ago are ending up simultaneously in place both on eBay and YJP. Apart from what bombora noted about a buyer having left negative feedback exposing a fraudulent auction, do we know what to expect if one ends up on top of one of these fake sales? I imagine a full refund is obvious, but do we have to fight for it? Most of the proxies have pretty substantial customer service practices, so in the end is this any more than a ploy to get people excited and bidding and driving up prices even when product isn’t available? The consequences would then be that the whole process just wastes time and ties money up temporarily. Otherwise, it is rather innocuous. That depends on how bothered you are but the realization that you may never know for sure if you’re bidding on something that is actually available! The alternative is to check concluded sales history for the occurrence of every piece you bid on, but AFAIK, these records only remain available for a few months (5-6?)) after end. The consequence is that it is now impossible to confidently determine the authenticity of an auction that you’re interested in, unless you maintain a database of every relevant sale starting from as early as possible (not a poor idea for a project, especially if this can be automated), and only bid on items which do not appear in this dataset. If you are into 7A38’s (I am) Paul does this on his site. It looks like it takes quite an effort though.
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Post by bombora on Mar 9, 2018 4:11:12 GMT -8
Use discretion and buy from sellers with decent feedback is the way to go. I have my own database within the EAJ website, my watchlist. It is about 120 pages worth now. It stores added items forever i think. I've been thinking of purchasing from Yahoo Japan using a reseller but have never done it before... do you find the Easy Auction Japan service good to use? I've been thinking about using Buyee but I'd love to hear if there's a better reseller out there EAJ has been good for ages, apart from some slow communications occasionally, but last week i suddenly couldn't access the site from my PC. My internet provider is looking for an answer. I have used Jauce as well and had no issues with them. I haven't used Buyee but i would expect them to operate like the others.
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khd
Can't Tell Time
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Post by khd on Mar 12, 2018 4:24:49 GMT -8
Thanks for the feedback bombora, nice to know... looks like a good option for us here in Perth, the EMS shipping times they quote don't seem too bad
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