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Post by SeikoPsycho on May 27, 2019 2:58:59 GMT -8
Hi. I am sorry if this offends anyone but here it goes. We have just seen a good original watch butchered. For those who don’t have obsessive compulsive disorder, a service , new gaskets and hand polish of the crystal would be enough. The watch can then display its healthy and proud past. We are seeing many these old watches up and sold down the track as NIB which they aren’t. Cheers Phil No offense taken but I'm in the other camp. The camp of restoring these fine watches to their former glory and besides, I don't understand how bringing one back on line with Original parts could be translated into a Butcher Job. Didn't Seiko offer these parts for just this purpose? To keep their watches looking like new?
Personally, I'm not even going to consider wearing something that looks like the cat just drug it in, all battered and beaten to a pulp.
Thankfully, I'm in this for my own enjoyment. and each his own............
The CraZy Butcher..........
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Post by leffemonster on May 27, 2019 3:20:56 GMT -8
Hi. I am sorry if this offends anyone but here it goes. We have just seen a good original watch butchered. For those who don’t have obsessive compulsive disorder, a service , new gaskets and hand polish of the crystal would be enough. The watch can then display its healthy and proud past. We are seeing many these old watches up and sold down the track as NIB which they aren’t. Cheers Phil No offense taken but I'm in the other camp. The camp of restoring these fine watches to their former glory and besides, I don't understand how bringing one back on line with Original parts could be translated into a Butcher Job. Didn't Seiko offer these parts for just this purpose? To keep their watches looking like new?
Personally, I'm not even going to consider wearing something that looks like the cat just drug it in, all battered and beaten to a pulp.
Thankfully, I'm in this for my own enjoyment. and each his own............
The CraZy Butcher.......... Spot on Tom. Nice new avatar by the way
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Post by SeikoPsycho on May 27, 2019 11:19:22 GMT -8
No offense taken but I'm in the other camp. The camp of restoring these fine watches to their former glory and besides, I don't understand how bringing one back on line with Original parts could be translated into a Butcher Job. Didn't Seiko offer these parts for just this purpose? To keep their watches looking like new?
Personally, I'm not even going to consider wearing something that looks like the cat just drug it in, all battered and beaten to a pulp.
Thankfully, I'm in this for my own enjoyment. and each his own............
The CraZy Butcher.......... Spot on Tom. Nice new avatar by the way Thanks Nick!
A sense of Humor is the Best Medicine and you gotta take the bumps in the road with a Grain of Salt.
I'm thinking of changing my user name to the CraZyButcher, It has a nice ring to it!.........
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HiBeat
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Post by HiBeat on May 27, 2019 12:42:15 GMT -8
Hi. I am sorry if this offends anyone but here it goes. We have just seen a good original watch butchered. For those who don’t have obsessive compulsive disorder, a service , new gaskets and hand polish of the crystal would be enough. The watch can then display its healthy and proud past. We are seeing many these old watches up and sold down the track as NIB which they aren’t. Cheers Phil You are entitled to your opinion but to me this job totally illustrates a perfect restoration using 100% OEM vintage spares and THAT is the epitome of our hobby
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Post by pip on May 27, 2019 13:27:36 GMT -8
One of the things I love about our hobby is that there is not a 100% right way, we all find the route we are happy with. Personally I love knackered and worn watches, but I also love restored ones. The only thing I don’t like is someone frankening a watch and not admitting it. And yes, that’s maybe because of the first 6139 I bought which is a mess of crappy and AM parts! Oh well, it helped me to find this place so even that was good in the end!
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Post by philsinclair on May 27, 2019 15:46:40 GMT -8
Hi. As I said my opinion only. To explain myself, I have been collecting watches since I was 10 years old and am now 66. Many of my watches were collected before I collected Seiko and are Rolex, Omega, Glasshute etc. The best way to halve the value of a good original top end watch is to change parts (even if original). Except for movement parts. I am merely applying the same principles to desirable lower end watches. Btw, love the new avatar. Cheers Phil
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Post by HiBeat on May 28, 2019 19:43:22 GMT -8
Agreed Phil that in the Swiss world changing out can halve the resale value. But this is vintage Seiko. Rotten looking old Seikos don't have appeal, they just look like battered war machines that have a story to tell but no one wants to know unless it was your own or your family member's story. So we use OEM parts and bring them back to their former glory and they scream 'wear me'.
My sister-in-laws older friend's husband bought a Rolex GMT for $175 on his honeymoon in the Virgin Islands in the '60s. Paperwork and all. Fantastic 'gone purple' patina to half the bezel. Just sold if for $8000 USD. Why? Because it had 100% provenance no fake parts no mish mosh parts swapping involved.
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