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Post by mattk84 on Aug 19, 2019 10:50:17 GMT -8
Iv got a lord marvel with a production date of March 1968 reference 5740 8009. It has the 36k bph 5740C movement but on dial it doesnt even say lord marvel, only 36m 23 jewels and iv only seen one other case with this dial for parts on ebay.. anybody have any info why it doesnt say lord marvel? And what does 36m mean?
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Post by HiBeat on Aug 19, 2019 11:47:42 GMT -8
Sounds like a possible re-dial situation. Post 5 times then post a photo. Mine says "hi":  |
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Post by mattk84 on Aug 19, 2019 11:57:55 GMT -8
Well then they did an awesome job on the redial if it is which I dont think It would be due to the aging of the dial. Still cant post pics yet
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Post by mattk84 on Aug 19, 2019 11:58:35 GMT -8
Sounds like a possible re-dial situation. Post 5 times then post a photo. Mine says "hi": that things beautiful |
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Post by pip on Aug 19, 2019 14:59:42 GMT -8
Sounds like a possible re-dial situation. Post 5 times then post a photo. Mine says "hi": Merry Christmas! |
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Post by mattk84 on Aug 19, 2019 15:04:54 GMT -8
Hahaha
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Post by mattk84 on Aug 19, 2019 15:10:40 GMT -8
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Post by HiBeat on Aug 19, 2019 16:58:52 GMT -8
We really need a shot of your dial ! |
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Post by mattk84 on Aug 19, 2019 17:10:37 GMT -8
I'm trying, still doesnt give me an option to add pictures
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Post by mattk84 on Aug 22, 2019 11:07:41 GMT -8
This is my watch here.. Ebay item number 254321831514 it's the sold listing of when I bought it
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Post by suntzu on Aug 22, 2019 11:23:59 GMT -8
This is my watch here.. Ebay item number 254321831514 it's the sold listing of when I bought it
I'll help you out and post the pictures.
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Post by leffemonster on Aug 22, 2019 11:34:49 GMT -8
Maybe the “M” is used as in the Roman numeral for 1000, i.e. 36M = 36000.
That’s a beautiful watch by the way!
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Post by mattk84 on Aug 22, 2019 12:13:42 GMT -8
Thank you suntzu, i appreciate it.. and yeah that could the case of it being the Roman numeral. Iv only seen one other dial like it and was in a stainless case like mine. Definitely a keeper for me. I finally got the back off and it says
daini seikosha co ltd
23 twenty three jewels
3 adjustments
5740C
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Post by mattk84 on Aug 22, 2019 12:17:13 GMT -8
There are a couple deep scratches on the case back now from my opener slipping, was on so tight I had to gently use a vice to hold the watch
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Post by mattk84 on Aug 22, 2019 12:54:06 GMT -8
Anyway the dial number is JAPAN 5740-8039T AD.. guess it's not a common dial.. just wonder why they didnt put the name of the watch on it
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 13:22:30 GMT -8
Anyway the dial number is JAPAN 5740-8039T AD.. guess it's not a common dial.. just wonder why they didnt put the name of the watch on it Many times, different print was/is used according to the intended market. |
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Post by mattk84 on Aug 22, 2019 14:07:04 GMT -8
Runs awesome but thinking about having it serviced anyway just cause I dont know when it was done last. It's become my daily watch
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Post by HiBeat on Aug 22, 2019 17:22:34 GMT -8
It's a beauty and the LM36000 sweep hand moves so smoothly it's a thing to behold. Much smoother than my KS 36000 4502 and even modern Grand Seikos running at 10 bps.
BUT those hands are wrong. I think the dial is original with a tasteful but confused re-text with new incorrect hands.
Case back is correct many of these were Seahorse backs but more were horseshoes like yours.
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Post by mattk84 on Aug 22, 2019 20:19:51 GMT -8
What do you mean by retext? And I didnt even notice the hands, thanks for pointing that out. I mean I actually really like it the way it is... it kind of like doesnt grab your attention but once it does, you cant stop checking it out. Especially that smooth hand. Almost as smooth as an accutron
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Post by huangcjz on Aug 23, 2019 10:27:08 GMT -8
I have searched and found a thumb-nail photo of a watch which has the same dial text and hand-set, though it comes on a different strap, so I can't tell if it was the exact same watch as yours or not. The dial of this one looks to be a bit yellowed like your one is as well, but it's not high-res enough to see if it's got the same yellow spots/marks on the dial underneath/near the 10 o'clock marker. It was listed for sale at a Goodwill, so I guess in the U.S.A.:  May I ask where the seller you got yours from was based? I can't seem to find the eBay listing. iv only seen one other case with this dial for parts on ebay. Do you have photos of that? I have also managed to find photos of another example here which ended a couple of days ago, which might be the one you saw for parts, which is clearly a different example of the watch, as this one's dial is more badly damaged and darkly-discoloured around its edge and around the mounting points for the applied numerals, with dark spots near 9 and 10, and is not really stained yellow, and it is missing its crown, but again it has the same hand-set, so I think the hand-set is legitimate, though different from the standard hand-set on the 5740-8000 model:   Here is another example which ended a week ago, again clearly a different example due to the heavily-damaged dial, but the "36 M" and "23 jewels" text can just be seen, as can the same hand-set:  The serial number on this one is 830243, so made in the same month and year as yours, and just 71 examples after your 830172. |
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