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Post by Paul on Apr 26, 2020 20:10:57 GMT -8
Saw this listed a couple of days back at $1 item (deleted while active) It will be interesting to see the final price. It would be nice nice to hear some feedback on how original this is.
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Post by jringo8769 on Apr 26, 2020 20:36:40 GMT -8
Well I seen this too From what I seen it looks quite nice With the ways these are selling now I wonder how much it will go for too Stay safe out there God Bless,John
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Post by cobrajet25 on Apr 27, 2020 0:01:24 GMT -8
"All original" my ass...
The case back looks like it has been refinished.
Bezel strikes me as being aftermarket, and isn't even installed correctly. I'd bet the inner bezel is a replacement as well. The lume on this one is almost perfectly uniform and seems thin. A real bezel will have lume that is blobbier and thicker. Seikosis?
The buckle is wrong, and I am not too sure about that bracelet, either. I'd like to see a pic of the inside of the clasp to see how it is stamped. I don't think I have ever seen that style of bracelet on a -6002...especially one from Australia. That watch should have the Stelux 'fishbone' style bracelet, IMHO. Looking at the backs of the lugs I think I can see where the endpieces for the Stelux bracelet would have rested on the case.
EDIT: Fcukin' chrono hands have been repainted. I keep finding more and more sh!t wrong with this one.
It looks like this one is a decent watch dumpster fire that has had some work done to it and was put in a vintage box (I think that box is from the '80s) to try to pass it off as nearly unworn.
No, sir...I am not impressed with this one at all, and it has already been bid up to almost $700 USD!
As far as I am concerned, this watch is a shiny turd.
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Post by suntzu on Apr 27, 2020 3:02:13 GMT -8
I trust CobraJet’s delicate, sugar coated assessment in lieu of my glasses at 7:00am. That was one of his more pleasant Monday morning posts. Glad to see social distancing hasn’t gotten to him... And if someone actually pays for it...PT Barnum had an expression reserved for them.
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Post by cobrajet25 on Apr 27, 2020 3:08:34 GMT -8
I trust CobraJet’s delicate, sugar coated assessment in lieu of my glasses at 7:00am. That was one of his more pleasant Monday morning posts. Glad to see social distancing hasn’t gotten to him... And if someone actually pays for it...PT Barnum had an expression reserved for them.
"Sugar coated" is right. Something tells me that seeing a (conspicuously absent) shot of the movement would have put me in a bad mood!
I wouldn't be surprised if this was just a shiny watch case full of used pinball machine parts.
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Post by bigbluekyle on Apr 27, 2020 5:15:24 GMT -8
cobrajet25 Probably the most Brutally Honest (and Insightful and Accurate) assessment of a 6139 I have ever read. Bravo!
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Post by HiBeat on Apr 27, 2020 5:38:48 GMT -8
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Post by Fergus on Apr 27, 2020 7:38:35 GMT -8
But isn't the box original? The logo does not look right.
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Post by Paul on May 3, 2020 20:02:41 GMT -8
Just checked the final price $1175 AUS I hope the winner is happy with their “original watch” I think it’s the fact that people have to much time on their hands at the moment.
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Post by seiko2019 on May 3, 2020 21:09:18 GMT -8
Just checked the final price $1175 AUS I hope the winner is happy with their “original watch” I think it’s the fact that people have to much time on their hands at the moment. I was following this as well as it came up on my local eBay. CobraJet's assessment is a timely reminder to research, research and research.
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Post by cobrajet25 on May 5, 2020 23:05:29 GMT -8
It's baaaack! Maybe the buyer read this thread?
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Post by seiko2019 on May 6, 2020 0:02:39 GMT -8
It's baaaack! Maybe the buyer read this thread?
With a new and improved description?? New listing: Well, this is one of the most sought after seiko for all seiko enthusiast. This one is mint and come with orginal box. You wont find anything like this around... absolutely mint and its a true stunner. Dont miss out or you will regret it! Note: some parts of the watch has been replaced, ie. Bracelet, simply, due to age of the watch. Otherwise, all functional and no scratch or damage. 1975 SEIKO Pogue Chronograph 6139-6002 Wrist Watch. Original listing: Well, this is one of the most sought after seiko for all seiko enthusiast. This one is mint and come with orginal box. You wont find anything like this around in the world... absolutely mint and its a true stunner. Dont miss out or you will regret it! All Original 1975 SEIKO Pogue Chronograph 6139-6002 Wrist Watch.
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Post by cobrajet25 on May 6, 2020 0:10:51 GMT -8
It's baaaack! Maybe the buyer read this thread?
With a new and improved description?? New listing: Well, this is one of the most sought after seiko for all seiko enthusiast. This one is mint and come with orginal box. You wont find anything like this around... absolutely mint and its a true stunner. Dont miss out or you will regret it! Note: some parts of the watch has been replaced, ie. Bracelet, simply, due to age of the watch. Otherwise, all functional and no scratch or damage. 1975 SEIKO Pogue Chronograph 6139-6002 Wrist Watch. Original listing: Well, this is one of the most sought after seiko for all seiko enthusiast. This one is mint and come with orginal box. You wont find anything like this around in the world... absolutely mint and its a true stunner. Dont miss out or you will regret it! All Original 1975 SEIKO Pogue Chronograph 6139-6002 Wrist Watch.
Haha! The description went from "all original" to "all functional"!
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Post by Fergus on May 6, 2020 0:33:01 GMT -8
Thanks for the in depth Pogue information.
The 6139-60## field is so full of mines it's not worth the gamble just to have a 'Pogue' on your wrist or list.
I have been looking at a blue dial which looks and sounds genuine BUT who knows for sure. But then again it's not a Pogue per se.
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Post by leffemonster on May 6, 2020 0:37:58 GMT -8
I’m with you on that Fergus. I’ve only got my 6139-600x examples as they were relatively cheap so worth a gamble, otherwise I’d have stayed away as the whole market seems to be a minefield. If I was desperate for one in my collection, and prepared to pay proper coin for one, I’d post a WTB on here rather than risk ebay.
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Post by jpc3 on May 6, 2020 9:33:25 GMT -8
I've never seen a 6002 that came on a fishbone bracelet. I've only seen them with this H-Link style and the occasional President bracelet. I have this same watch that I just finished bringing back to life and its clean but I wouldn't call it perfect. However, it is all original. Now if I could just get the seconds hand to reset to zero.....any volunteers?
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Post by Fergus on May 6, 2020 9:41:21 GMT -8
I've never seen a 6002 that came on a fishbone bracelet. I've only seen them with this H-Link style and the occasional President bracelet. I have this same watch that I just finished bringing back to life and its clean but I wouldn't call it perfect. However, it is all original. Now if I could just get the seconds hand to reset to zero.....any volunteers? Deep interlocking of chronograph finger Loose chronograph second hand Abrased hammer.
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Post by jpc3 on May 6, 2020 9:47:22 GMT -8
I know the hand isn't loose. It resets perfectly to 2 min every time and it pressed on beautifully in the exact incorrect position.
The hammer looked fine during service but this also existed prior to service so I'll be checking it out eventually. Since I always leave it running I'm not in much of a hurry to tear it back down to investigate.
What do you mean by deep interlocking of chronograph finger?
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Post by Fergus on May 6, 2020 10:29:30 GMT -8
I know the hand isn't loose. It resets perfectly to 2 min every time and it pressed on beautifully in the exact incorrect position. The hammer looked fine during service but this also existed prior to service so I'll be checking it out eventually. Since I always leave it running I'm not in much of a hurry to tear it back down to investigate. What do you mean by deep interlocking of chronograph finger? Its shown on the 6139 worksheet.
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Post by ausseikocollector on May 7, 2020 18:55:13 GMT -8
It’s got a fake case back too, machined back and re-etched...
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