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Post by leffemonster on Jun 4, 2020 23:52:57 GMT -8
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Post by nordlys on Jun 5, 2020 1:00:05 GMT -8
Agree. IMO the new design language works much better here with these bezel-less models than with the "dive-watches" released last year.
The MSRP is too dear for the specs, but I'm sure they'll sell for 50% off MSRP from Jomashop/Creation/etc. like all other Seiko 5s.
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Post by cobrajet25 on Jun 5, 2020 3:02:51 GMT -8
Eh, they are fine. I am glad Seiko made them a little smaller. But, of course, there is no orange one for me. Yellow might be cool as well.
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Post by HiBeat on Jun 6, 2020 9:35:47 GMT -8
Eh, they are fine. I am glad Seiko made them a little smaller. But, of course, there is no orange one for me. Yellow might be cool as well. "The case is similar in proportion to the Seiko 5 Sports watches that were introduced last year, but slightly smaller at 40mm" Allow me to respectfully play the contrarian. If you're going to have this shape case, I don't think it should be smaller. I'm wearing an skx today and don't feel it's too large or in fact needs to be any smaller. But again, that's just my opinion. Respect all. |
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Post by huangcjz on Jun 6, 2020 10:13:34 GMT -8
Eh, they are fine. I am glad Seiko made them a little smaller. But, of course, there is no orange one for me. Yellow might be cool as well. "The case is similar in proportion to the Seiko 5 Sports watches that were introduced last year, but slightly smaller at 40mm" Allow me to respectfully play the contrarian. If you're going to have this shape case, I don't think it should be smaller. I'm wearing an skx today and don't feel it's too large or in fact needs to be any smaller. But again, that's just my opinion. Respect all. What about the SKX013? There hasn't been a replacement for it yet. I would also like a smaller SKX. Anyway, I don't think this case is actually any different to the previous new SEIKO 5 SPORTS watches - I think on the previous ones, and on the SKX007/9, the divers' watch rotating bezel overhangs the case by 1 mm on each side, making the watch 42 mm, but the case is the same, and is actually 40 mm - you can see on these new ones that the bezel is smaller than the case, so the sides of the case can be seen on either side from the front, which isn't the case on the previous new SEIKO 5 SPORTS watches, and on the SKX007/9. |
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Post by HiBeat on Jun 6, 2020 10:26:33 GMT -8
"The case is similar in proportion to the Seiko 5 Sports watches that were introduced last year, but slightly smaller at 40mm" Allow me to respectfully play the contrarian. If you're going to have this shape case, I don't think it should be smaller. I'm wearing an skx today and don't feel it's too large or in fact needs to be any smaller. But again, that's just my opinion. Respect all. What about the SKX013? There hasn't been a replacement for it yet. I would also like a smaller SKX. Anyway, I don't think this case is actually any different to the previous new SEIKO 5 SPORTS watches - I think on the previous ones, and on the SKX007/9, the divers' watch rotating bezel overhangs the case by 1 mm on each side, making the watch 42 mm, but the case is the same, and is actually 40 mm - you can see on these new ones that the bezel is smaller than the case, so the sides of the case can be seen on either side from the front, which isn't the case on the previous new SEIKO 5 SPORTS watches, and on the SKX007/9. Just to clear, the old style SKX007 case is the same shape and size as the first generation SK5 Sports Line. I stripped one down they differ only in the crown tube. Quickie photos an NOS year 2019 SKX007 and a new SRP whatever:     |
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Post by japroe on Jun 7, 2020 5:06:53 GMT -8
Agree as well but I have a weird thing for the right color green in watches (srpd77 has a real cool Dial texture). Apparently even with the smaller size they wear very similar to the skx007. Msrp does seem quite high so also curious to see what Jomashop, etc. has them going for. Derek |
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Post by cobrajet25 on Jun 7, 2020 5:18:54 GMT -8
Eh, they are fine. I am glad Seiko made them a little smaller. But, of course, there is no orange one for me. Yellow might be cool as well. "The case is similar in proportion to the Seiko 5 Sports watches that were introduced last year, but slightly smaller at 40mm" Allow me to respectfully play the contrarian. If you're going to have this shape case, I don't think it should be smaller. I'm wearing an skx today and don't feel it's too large or in fact needs to be any smaller. But again, that's just my opinion. Respect all. The SKX was the perfect size for an ISO-rated dive watch. But since it isn't a diver anymore...and is now losing the dive bezel...it no longer needs to be perfect diver size. A person with smaller wrists can wear a 007 or 009, but might be more comfortable with a 013. This slots right between them.
I assume Seiko is sizing it down a little because of customer feedback? As to why it is retaining this same basic shape, the diver-ish hands, and big crown with crown guards, I can only assume it is because the watch is still being marketed as a '5 Sports'.
Personally, I welcome a trend towards smaller watches. They have been too big for tool long.
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Post by russtmurray on Jun 7, 2020 5:45:47 GMT -8
Yes they're some good looking pieces there but like those who dislike the "x" in the Prospex line, I feel the same about the stylized "5" symbol. It's a turn off for me.
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Post by HiBeat on Jun 7, 2020 11:36:57 GMT -8
Yes they're some good looking pieces there but like those who dislike the "x" in the Prospex line, I feel the same about the stylized "5" symbol. It's a turn off for me. FWIW, I saw the same sort of "stylized S" on a vintage Seiko from the 50s or 60s. I forget which one and I wish I had saved it.
Anyway I wonder if viewing the new "5" as an homage / legacy logo makes it any more palatable ?
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Post by cobrajet25 on Jun 7, 2020 23:17:11 GMT -8
Yes they're some good looking pieces there but like those who dislike the "x" in the Prospex line, I feel the same about the stylized "5" symbol. It's a turn off for me. FWIW, I saw the same sort of "stylized S" on a vintage Seiko from the 50s or 60s. I forget which one and I wish I had saved it.
Anyway I wonder if viewing the new "5" as an homage / legacy logo makes it any more palatable ?
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Post by huangcjz on Jun 8, 2020 2:27:29 GMT -8
FWIW, I saw the same sort of "stylized S" on a vintage Seiko from the 50s or 60s. I forget which one and I wish I had saved it. Anyway I wonder if viewing the new "5" as an homage / legacy logo makes it any more palatable? These are the only "stylized S", Seiko 5, and other Seiko logos which I know of: Used I think from about 1946 onwards until about 1958 on the dial, and on some signed crowns since: Stamped, embossed:  Stamped (or perhaps engraved?), debossed, silver:  (a gold version also exists) Printed, gold:  Printed, black:  Seiko logo used on some buckles from perhaps about the late 1950s until about 1963 (a similar, more rounded, less square version was used on some of their watch lines' dials from 1958 to around 1963, as you can see on the later Marvel above):  "Spinning top" logos for automatic watches: Gyro Marvel, stamped:  (a printed black version also exists) Seikomatic, early version, stamped, gold:  Seikomatic, early version, stamped, silver:  Seikomatic, printed, early version:  Seikomatic, printed, later version:  (the printed versions of the logo were always in black - the difference between the earlier and later printed versions is more clearly illustrated in these expanded photos of the logos here - the earlier printed version has the 3 horizontal stokes of the "S" in "Seikomatic" almost parallel to each other and horizontal, whereas the later version has a middle down-stroke of the "S" which is thicker, and slopes more diagonally from upper left to lower right, and also the addition of noticeable "hooks" on the tails of the "S": matic6246.web.fc2.com/62series/6036201/6036201.html ) Seikomatic, applied, silver, with later version script "S":  Seiko Sportsmatic, printed:  Seiko Sportsmatic 5, early version, printed:  Seiko Sportsmatic 5 Deluxe, applied, earlier version, in-filled in black:  Seiko Sportsmatic 5 Deluxe, applied, later version, not in-filled in black:  There were also versions of the first Seiko Sportsmatic 5 shield as well as of the later Seiko 5 logo which were the same, apart from being in red, as you can see here: wristsushi.proboards.com/thread/21110/shield-seiko-horseshoe-back-7009That takes you up until the late 1960s, probably around 1968. Then there were the later versions of the Seiko 5 shield logo, post-Sporstsmatic, which you can see a red version of in the above link, which were used from the late 1960s, which people are probably most familiar with, until the introduction of this new logo. |
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Post by pip on Jun 8, 2020 4:03:40 GMT -8
FWIW, I saw the same sort of "stylized S" on a vintage Seiko from the 50s or 60s. I forget which one and I wish I had saved it. Anyway I wonder if viewing the new "5" as an homage / legacy logo makes it any more palatable? These are the only "stylized S", Seiko 5, and other Seiko logos which I know of... Another superb post, love it. |
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Post by russtmurray on Jun 8, 2020 6:43:03 GMT -8
Yes they're some good looking pieces there but like those who dislike the "x" in the Prospex line, I feel the same about the stylized "5" symbol. It's a turn off for me. FWIW, I saw the same sort of "stylized S" on a vintage Seiko from the 50s or 60s. I forget which one and I wish I had saved it.
Anyway I wonder if viewing the new "5" as an homage / legacy logo makes it any more palatable ?
I would imagine the homage / legacy logo might make it more palatable for some, it's still a badge/shield to me and I just don't care for it. If it was smaller like in the application on some Speeedtimers then maybe. It's kinda like those bullet holes on the side of a Buick...it's nice but not necessary  |
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Post by cobrajet25 on Jun 8, 2020 6:52:05 GMT -8
FWIW, I saw the same sort of "stylized S" on a vintage Seiko from the 50s or 60s. I forget which one and I wish I had saved it.
Anyway I wonder if viewing the new "5" as an homage / legacy logo makes it any more palatable ?
It's kinda like those bullet holes on the side of a Buick...it's nice but not necessary
Ahem, they are called 'Ventiports' by Buick. Apparently, they were supposed to look like the exhaust outlets on a fighter plane.
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Post by russtmurray on Jun 8, 2020 9:29:03 GMT -8
It's kinda like those bullet holes on the side of a Buick...it's nice but not necessary Ahem, they are called 'Ventiports' by Buick. Apparently, they were supposed to look like the exhaust outlets on a fighter plane. Ah yes, fond memories. Maybe that's why Dad bought a 57 Special. He was a fighter pilot in WWII  |
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Post by small on Jun 9, 2020 4:59:39 GMT -8
The font for Automatic reminds me of something out of Patel's workshop.
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Post by huangcjz on Jun 9, 2020 5:45:55 GMT -8
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Post by HiBeat on Jun 9, 2020 11:08:42 GMT -8
Thank you I never noticed that ! we know there are always going to be the die-hard fans who do not accept change. And there will be others who accept change but just don't happen to like this particular change. so all in all it will be a minority of Seiko fans today that like the new look. I happen to be one who does! I mean, come on, they literally made hundreds of millions of old watches is not like one can't go out and get one anytime you want one. |
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Post by small on Jun 11, 2020 4:07:23 GMT -8
Don't get me wrong I have one on my watch list, I just recall first seeing it and thought, where have I seen that before???It's not the same as Patel's but script has been use seldom on Seikos as the few early examples you shows. I also don't care for roman numerals either...but that's another nit to pick... |
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