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Post by josejmartinez on Nov 13, 2013 10:17:36 GMT -8
Am interested in the 071 and 072.
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Post by Groundhog66 on Nov 13, 2013 12:10:05 GMT -8
SARB071 - I like it, and I think the diamond on the back side of the second hand is a nice touch. It's a fantastic looking watch, I'd certainly give it some wrist time. SARB072 - Not a fan of gold, but whatever floats your boat.
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Post by 69ChevelleSS on Nov 13, 2013 13:27:19 GMT -8
Very nice. Classic looking watch and I agree with Tim . . . . Like the black version much better.
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Post by Groundhog66 on Nov 13, 2013 13:29:14 GMT -8
Very nice. Classic looking watch and I agree with Tim . . . . Like the black version much better. How about a silver case, with white dial...would look nice IMO.
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Post by 69ChevelleSS on Nov 13, 2013 13:30:11 GMT -8
Very nice. Classic looking watch and I agree with Tim . . . . Like the black version much better. How about a silver case, with white dial...would look nice IMO. Yup . . . for sure!
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Post by sdoocms on Nov 13, 2013 13:44:23 GMT -8
They are really classy, good looking watches. They would be a little small for my wrist though.
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Post by Groundhog66 on Nov 13, 2013 13:55:45 GMT -8
They are really classy, good looking watches. They would be a little small for my wrist though. I think if you just get used to it, it would be doable.....Unless of course, your wrist is 8"+. I got used to wearing the old Sportsmatic's, it's nice to wear smaller watches sometimes. I guess they wear more like a bracelet, than the chunky watches of more modern stylings.
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Post by josejmartinez on Nov 13, 2013 14:29:23 GMT -8
For me watches the size of a datejust are ok, then they get bigger and fatter until they get humungus like an ecozilla... 36 to 40 mm os ok.
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Post by kingrat on Nov 13, 2013 14:56:00 GMT -8
I like the first one. It's hoity toity.
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Post by sdoocms on Nov 13, 2013 15:08:24 GMT -8
They are really classy, good looking watches. They would be a little small for my wrist though. I think if you just get used to it, it would be doable.....Unless of course, your wrist is 8"+. I got used to wearing the old Sportsmatic's, it's nice to wear smaller watches sometimes. I guess they wear more like a bracelet, than the chunky watches of more modern stylings. This is what a 38mm watch looks like on my wrist. It doesn't look all that bad but it does feel small.
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Post by SpinDoctor on Nov 13, 2013 18:35:33 GMT -8
I had an 023 for a long time. Beautiful model. If it had an anti reflective crystal it would have been perfect.
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Post by cd_god on Nov 13, 2013 18:45:51 GMT -8
Too pricey for a fancy dress watch with a basic movement if you ask me.
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Post by HiBeat on Nov 14, 2013 17:57:03 GMT -8
Too pricey for a fancy dress watch with a basic movement if you ask me. I agree that the 6R15 is a nice movement but really why do these watches command $400+ USD? The caliber is not really no more accurate than a basic 7S26/7S36 and not all that much more complicated -hacking and hand winding are nice though. I really admire the simplicity/elegance of the cases and dials, yet I find myself ready to put that money towards a more expensive Grand or King Seiko, or move down to a Seiko Quartz with the similar casing/dial combo. Sort of a 'No Man's Land' in the pricing structure for me. Now, if I could land one on fleabay for half price, I'd be wearing it tomorrow.
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Post by SpinDoctor on Nov 15, 2013 19:31:40 GMT -8
Too pricey for a fancy dress watch with a basic movement if you ask me. I agree that the 6R15 is a nice movement but really why do these watches command $400+ USD? The caliber is not really no more accurate than a basic 7S26/7S36 and not all that much more complicated -hacking and hand winding are nice though. I really admire the simplicity/elegance of the cases and dials, yet I find myself ready to put that money towards a more expensive Grand or King Seiko, or move down to a Seiko Quartz with the similar casing/dial combo. Sort of a 'No Man's Land' in the pricing structure for me. Now, if I could land one on fleabay for half price, I'd be wearing it tomorrow. Its a shame that the opinion of the 6r15 just being a 7s with hacking and handwinding persists, but I can't blame anyone when Seiko never really promoted the caliber and its advancements. Of course it is built on the architecture of the 7s caliber, but that shouldn't surprise anyone. Why would Seiko go through the trouble of redeveloping parts which for the most part gain no value from redevelopment? What's important is that seiko redeveloped the important parts. Much like all animals being equal but some animals are more equal than others (that'd be an Animal Farm quote, yo), the balance wheel and mainspring are more equal than all the other parts of the movement and that's where the differences exist. The 6r15 mainspring is composed of a special material Seiko calls Spron 510 which of course is not used in the 7s caliber. This alloy delivers a increased power reserve of 50 hours specified as well as improved isochronism. The advancements to the balance wheel includes not only the same Spron 510 alloy used for the hairspring, but also was redesigned to an ETA style adjustable pinning system which in the hands of someone who knows what to do with it can deliver greater accuracy. If you can't appreciate these improvements, I don't blame you. I've lost all interest in mechanical watches so these improvements are much like improving a pair of scissor, but I can appreciate them as improvements upon the base model. The 6r15 is also Made in Japan (maybe not literally, but who knows. See the first sentence of this post) and according to two separate direct communications with Seiko Japan Customer Service, is factory regulated although to what parameters remains a mystery. As far as the SARB models being worth the selling price, I can't qualify the models posted in the OP as I've never seen them in person, but I can comment on the SARB021 which is a similar style and slightly more expensive price. The money in the SARB021 is all in the dial and case. The dial is enamel and is beautiful and actually changes in appearance in different lighting. In most lighting it looks like a pool of perfectly black ink, but then walk outside in the bright light and the dial appears a matte dark brown. It has character and is probably only appreciated in person so I don't expect anyone to be impressed, but that's how it goes and you certainly don't get dials like this on more economical models. The major index markers are also incredibly finished with highly polished edges and cross hatching on the top. The case on the SARB021 was very well done. It is very angular with the edges finished very precisely. The brushed finish is also very well done and not sloppy. Again, must be seen in the metal to be appreciated but I can assure you that this is not a basic Seiko case. Here's a link to a review I wrote a long time ago with some sexy pictures taken by a friend. jikanwatch.blogspot.com/2011/02/review-of-seiko-sarb021.htmlAside from my earlier comment about the lack of an anti-reflective crystal, I just remembered I was also annoyed with the clasp on the bracelet having only 2 adjustment holes and no partial links on the bracelet so it was a challenge to get a good fit. In the end, I think the SARBs are worth what they sell for. Put Swiss Made on the dial and they'd easily sell for twice more. Finding one second hand is even better. If you choose to spend the same money on something else, that's completely understandable too.
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Post by cd_god on Nov 15, 2013 19:50:17 GMT -8
I think if you just get used to it, it would be doable.....Unless of course, your wrist is 8"+. I got used to wearing the old Sportsmatic's, it's nice to wear smaller watches sometimes. I guess they wear more like a bracelet, than the chunky watches of more modern stylings. This is what a 38mm watch looks like on my wrist. It doesn't look all that bad but it does feel small. Needs more cowbell, I mean dial. My 36MM Omega Dynamic whish is all dial wears much biggger but fits comfortably on my wrist.
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Post by cobrajet25 on Nov 15, 2013 23:09:14 GMT -8
6R15 diver is worth the money. The dress models...eh, they seem a little overpriced to me.
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Post by seikomatic on Nov 18, 2013 21:57:17 GMT -8
I like gold but those lumed hands and here is mine modded 003
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