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Post by 69ChevelleSS on Mar 21, 2014 12:28:50 GMT -8
Very cool . . . . interesting lady . . . you're a lucky man Spencer!
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Post by jkchua on Mar 21, 2014 16:34:31 GMT -8
Nice read, Thanks for sharing. Actually bought the wrong watch after reading this haha! 6119 with a 62mas like lume markers.
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Post by cobrajet25 on Mar 21, 2014 22:48:16 GMT -8
Looks great, Spencer! And I like the strap choice.
How is the glow on that one? Mine glow pretty well for being almost 50 years old, but yours looks like it should glow like a torch with that bright green lume.
Just curious...was yours a 6119A or 6119B? I have two from June, '68...one A and one B.
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Post by seikoholic on Mar 22, 2014 15:17:52 GMT -8
Looks great, Spencer! And I like the strap choice. How is the glow on that one? Mine glow pretty well for being almost 50 years old, but yours looks like it should glow like a torch with that bright green lume. Just curious...was yours a 6119A or 6119B? I have two from June, '68...one A and one B. I've got a correct period strap coming, but that one isn't bad at all, thank you! It's a 6119A, and a fantastic runner. I love that the two extra jewels are under the daywheel, rather than cap jewels. Cruising speeds in the 250 range for amplitude, just solid as anything. The dial does glow absolutely, but not for very long, but much brighter than any other period Seiko I've seen. |
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Post by seikoholic on Apr 30, 2014 12:52:01 GMT -8
I had picked this 6106-8217 up in a watch lot some time ago and was considering the movement for another 6106 but it was in such nice condition I couldn't part it out. It dated to Aug. 1970. Unfortunately I decided to let it go to help fund another project. Now I've got the WIS Blues..........  Any idea if this model was one of those issued? |
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Post by SeikoPsycho on Apr 30, 2014 14:54:13 GMT -8
I had picked this 6106-8217 up in a watch lot some time ago and was considering the movement for another 6106 but it was in such nice condition I couldn't part it out. It dated to Aug. 1970. Unfortunately I decided to let it go to help fund another project. Now I've got the WIS Blues.......... Any idea if this model was one of those issued? Man Spencer, you just won't let my WIS Blues subside!.........  As far as I can remember from the photos I have, it had no special markings that would have indicated it was a service issue.  |
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Post by seikoholic on Apr 30, 2014 15:28:52 GMT -8
Any idea if this model was one of those issued? Man Spencer, you just won't let my WIS Blues subside!......... As far as I can remember from the photos I have, it had no special markings that would have indicated it was a service issue. Well, here's the thing. I have one of these coming in. |
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Post by dasher on May 13, 2015 6:55:26 GMT -8
In an effort to keep this thread near the top of the front page of WS (I was going to write "relevant" but it is already that!) I submit my latest pick up. This MAC-V SOG Operator was in a poorly-listed live auction on eBay. These live auctions are a new thing, but pretty cool. Nonetheless, this one was poorly listed and I managed to get it for lunch money.  The crystal still caught some glare, but the dial and hands are in great shape. A bit more effort with the Poly Watch and I think I can get those scratches out. The sides of the watch are certainly pitted:   And the case back shot:  and a close up of the dial text:  A few observations that may or may not be correct: the case back is a snap on case back. I don't recall seeing a gasket, but there probably is one (I saw service marks on the inside of the case back). The crystal is held in place with only a tension ring and retaining ring - I did not see a crystal gasket. The movement is a 6119A movement, marked 21 Jewels. The date is changed by pushing in the crown, I think the only way to advance the day is by the time setting. Thanks for looking and providing any feedback/corrections! Dan |
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Post by longbike on May 15, 2015 0:59:11 GMT -8
aaaaahhhhh .... ,so that's where it went after it disappeared real fast. It went in a flash from the screen too. Good catch Sir , enjoy it Dan. 7dfe79adc2f0 ( Love it that one Aloha .... Louis |
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Post by cobrajet25 on May 18, 2015 2:14:00 GMT -8
That is a great example of the SOG watch. It is one of the verified actual models given out by MAC-V, unlike most of the watches showing up on Ebay which are now being advertised as MAC-V. Most of these are just period-correct and have an Arabic dial. I don't think it can be said that every late 1960s Seiko with an Arabic dial even came from overseas, much less that they all have a connection to the Vietnam War. Though, undoubtedly, many do. This 6119-8090 was purchased from one of the children of the original owner on Ebay. I inquired about any military connection the watch may have, and they said their father was not in the military at all. Rather, he was an FBI agent under J Edgar Hoover.  I am glad this old post is still interesting to you!  |
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Post by catkicker on Apr 27, 2016 3:34:27 GMT -8
So on a related subject to these watches. Many of the picture we see of these watches are on nylon or cotton type straps and many of them have the wrist strap compass. Looking at standard issue wrist strap compasses it looks like they just added the watch to the compass strap Also I 've seen 2 compasses that are common. One looks to be a older Waltham compass WWII and Korea and in some descriptins of the compass Vietnam is mentioned. Think it is possible some end up in Vietnam.  Then we have the more current WCC that is described as being issued to paratrooers and MACV-SOG - SPECIAL OPS  Now it seems there maybe a 3rd. Very rare one out there. A Silva waterproof wrist compass. A quote from Jungle snafus.com our compass DEFICIENCIES IN VIETNAM"The overwhelming majority of even our infantrymen in Vietnam did not have compasses, although many recognized the need. Furthermore, the Army’s lensatic and other compasses were not moisture-proof or waterproof. They often became unserviceable, above all in the Mekong Delta. In LCDR Thomas J. Cutler’s Brown Water, Black Berets, a sobering book on the Navy’s fresh-to-brackish water forces in South Vietnam, on page 253 we read “...compass components froze up with regularity.” Before going to Vietnam in 1967 to work on combat equipment problems, I heard similar accounts of compass failures from Special Forces veterans back from the expanding war. So, with some of the money made available to me by Union Carbide Corporation to improve jungle combat equipment, I went to La Porte, Indiana to the American plant of Silva, Inc. Silva is the Swedish company that makes the world’s best compasses for individuals. In La Porte I learned about the availability of Silva compasses, and with my own money bought 100 waterproof wrist compasses on nylon wristbands. Later, in Vietnam, I and other members of the Science Advisor’s staff gave away large numbers of wrist compasses, including additional hundreds of Silva compasses that I bought with funds made available to me by Union Carbide. We distributed individual compasses to American and Vietnamese officers from the Demilitarized Zone to far down in the Mekong Delta. I gave a few to Aussies and to Special Forces officers at the U.S. Army Special Forces Camp at Lopburi, Thailand. All agreed that every jungle soldier should have a waterproof compass." Not sure what these Silvas look like. |
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Post by catkicker on May 10, 2016 15:49:50 GMT -8
So I've been looking to get some of these Vietnam war era Seiko watches. I had a chance at a beautifully restored 6619-8060 That considering the auction lot it came from it most likely had been worn in Vietnam. I just could not justify the cost to obtain it. So patiently I waited and BINGO!! July of 1967 Seiko 6619-8060 It looks as though it came in a group of 3 watches that were split up and sold separately, a military issue Hamilton from early 70's And a 6138 pilot/slide rule from 1970... From what I'm reading this model may have been issued prior to the confirmed special force issued Seiko's the 6119-8100 & 6119-8101 Runs great thinking about leaving the original crystal on it to kind of maintain it's character. To top it off a Vietnam wrist strap compass to go with it.     |
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Post by 69ChevelleSS on May 11, 2016 5:04:50 GMT -8
Congrats! Vietnam was a very dark period in the history of the US but our soldiers deserve to be recognized for their bravery and sacrifice.
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Post by Groundhog66 on May 11, 2016 5:10:23 GMT -8
Nice find, Stephen, congrats. I too would love to stumble upon one, perhaps at a thrift shop one day. But I guess in order for that to happen, I need to start visiting thrift shops.  |
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Post by catkicker on May 11, 2016 5:50:07 GMT -8
The problem with these watches now are they have been exposed and now the cost is going completely overboard. Like any Seiko
That is deemed collectable the price goes crazy.
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Post by Groundhog66 on May 11, 2016 6:10:31 GMT -8
The problem with these watches now are they have been exposed and now the cost is going completely overboard. Like any Seiko That is deemed collectable the price goes crazy. Agreed, that's why it will be advantageous, to find them in places where folks don't know what they are. I'm not dying to own one, but if one fell into my lap... |
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Post by catkicker on May 11, 2016 6:56:18 GMT -8
I'll keep a eye out for you.
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Post by catkicker on May 25, 2016 5:41:55 GMT -8
O-U-T-S-T-A-N-D-I-N-G! Sometimes the stories are almost better than the watches. I can't get enough stories like these...vets are the best! From what I have read, watches like yours were also issued to SOG personnel. Seikos were well established in their supply chain even in 1965-66. These two Sportsmatics, for example, were also issued.   The MAC-V SOG guys made use of many different types of gear sourced "in country", which would make perfect sense given their mission. Locally-made knives, special parangs, specialized tactical vests made in the area, etc. I guess if you are a US soldier creeping around in Laos while your government is telling the world you are not in Laos, the less stuff you have on you that says "Made in the USA", the better. Any idea what model numbers these two are? |
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Post by dasher on Feb 9, 2017 14:01:44 GMT -8
And back to the top!
I recently picked up this close cousin to the MAC-V SOG - just excited to see it! Ref # 6619-8060:
Dan
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Post by leffemonster on Feb 9, 2017 14:32:43 GMT -8
Nice pick up Dan. I wonder what the significance to '1968' scratched on the case back is?
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