martog
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Post by martog on Feb 14, 2014 7:04:34 GMT -8
Hi Guys, WHat is the secret to winning those watches on Ebay 4 times I have tried to win a watch but each time either the time difference is wrong and I have my eyes hanging out of my head trying to place a bid then only to be out flanked at the last second.
Is there a way to place a bid ahead of the next person up to a designated max bid so I don't over do it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated the watches I was looking at were Vintage Citizen Automatic Chronographs I have a soft spot for them at the moment.
Cheers
Mark
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Post by Groundhog66 on Feb 14, 2014 7:11:25 GMT -8
I never place a bid, until the final 5-8 seconds of the auction. Just wait till the last seconds, and place your highest bid. Some you win, some you don't.
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sdoocms
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Post by sdoocms on Feb 14, 2014 7:15:13 GMT -8
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Post by seikoholic on Feb 14, 2014 11:26:59 GMT -8
Yup. I live and die by eSnipe. It's the only way to go. I've been using eSnipe for more than twelve years, unbelievable. Look at the item, decide your highest final price, set your snipe, and forget about it. No getting sucked into bidding wars, no artificially creating a higher final price, and no missed auctions either. I don't win everything at all, but I save a lot of money AND when I do win, I win for my price.
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Post by catkicker on Feb 14, 2014 11:27:26 GMT -8
Sniping is the prefered method. Punch in the max you will pay and it will automatically bid for you in the last seconds of the auction. While your sleeping or driving to work it doest the bidding. I have won several items that way. I have great internet speed and I have it set to bid at 3seconds left in th auction.
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Post by seikoholic on Feb 14, 2014 11:28:28 GMT -8
Sniping is the prefered method. Punch in the max you will pay and it will automatically bid for you in the last seconds of the auction. While your sleeping or driving to work it doest the bidding. I have won several items that way. I have great internet speed and I have it set to bid at 3seconds left in th auction. The great thing is that it's not on your internet speed at all. It's on the eSnipe servers. Your computer could be off and on fire, and your bid would still go in.
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Post by lordflagpolecrabtree on Feb 14, 2014 11:44:21 GMT -8
Sniping is the prefered method. Punch in the max you will pay and it will automatically bid for you in the last seconds of the auction. While your sleeping or driving to work it doest the bidding. I have won several items that way. I have great internet speed and I have it set to bid at 3seconds left in th auction. The great thing is that it's not on your internet speed at all. It's on the eSnipe servers. Your computer could be off and on fire, and your bid would still go in. I've just spent 20 minutes trying to say exactly this. But my netbook is playing up and my internet speed has suddenly dropped. Had to reboot it. Now if I was trying to place a last second bid, which is what I used to do before Goofbid................ Nuff sed ! I love Goofbid, it's only ever failed me once. I've even started to become a grumpy old man about newbies (and not so newbies) bumping up prices.
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Post by Groundhog66 on Feb 14, 2014 13:47:20 GMT -8
I like to place the bid myself, sniping tools take the fun away IMO. There are no bidding wars if you just bid your max at the end of the auction, but to each their own.
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Post by saul on Feb 14, 2014 15:04:32 GMT -8
I like to place the bid myself, sniping tools take the fun away IMO. There are no bidding wars if you just bid your max at the end of the auction, but to each their own. I've never used a sniping tool but there are some auctions where I just cannot be at a computer at the close (either I'm at work or asleep or forgot). But there is something about placing that bid just as the clock is running down that really gets my adrenalin going. I guess it's as close as I'll get to hunting for my dinner.
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Post by Groundhog66 on Feb 14, 2014 15:09:04 GMT -8
I like to place the bid myself, sniping tools take the fun away IMO. There are no bidding wars if you just bid your max at the end of the auction, but to each their own. I've never used a sniping tool but there are some auctions where I just cannot be at a computer at the close (either I'm at work or asleep or forgot). But there is something about placing that bid just as the clock is running down that really gets my adrenalin going. I guess it's as close as I'll get to hunting for my dinner. I completely agree, it's a bit of a rush. I typically only bid on Seiko auctions in North America, so there aren't many bids needed during the wee hours of the night. Zodiacs and Heuer's are a different story, I'll bid worldwide due to the rarity of the models I'm seeking.
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Post by estrickland on Feb 14, 2014 15:37:39 GMT -8
I use Gixen, which uses 2 separate servers synced to eBay clocks to post bids with 3 seconds to go.
I've been outbid a number of times, but never failed to have my bid posted.
I just set a max bid, usually well before auction close, to keep adrenaline out of my valuation.
I'll intentionally walk away during auction close, to avoid compulsive refreshing - I don't need the stress.
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cobrajet25
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Post by cobrajet25 on Feb 14, 2014 15:48:32 GMT -8
The highest bid wins, not the last bid. If you want to win more watches, bid more money. I'll bet you are like me...wondering why the bid amounts for a certain model in a certain condition that worked most of the time in 2007 aren't working anymore? Prices have gone up. Bid the absolute max you are willing to pay with this in mind, and you will have better luck.
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Post by Groundhog66 on Feb 14, 2014 16:43:49 GMT -8
The highest bid wins, not the last bid. If you want to win more watches, bid more money. I'll bet you are like me...wondering why the bid amounts for a certain model in a certain condition that worked most of the time in 2007 aren't working anymore? Prices have gone up. Bid the absolute max you are willing to pay with this in mind, and you will have better luck. That is definitely the bottom line, isn't it.
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Post by seikoholic on Feb 15, 2014 16:20:36 GMT -8
The highest bid wins, not the last bid. If you want to win more watches, bid more money. I'll bet you are like me...wondering why the bid amounts for a certain model in a certain condition that worked most of the time in 2007 aren't working anymore? Prices have gone up. Bid the absolute max you are willing to pay with this in mind, and you will have better luck. That is definitely the bottom line, isn't it. It always is. Decide a final highest price you'd be comfortable, and that's it.
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martog
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Post by martog on Feb 15, 2014 16:45:39 GMT -8
Thanks Guys
All done now just wait and see what happens, very easy to set up hopefully now I can have a little more luck.
Cheers Mark
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Post by seikoholic on Feb 15, 2014 17:15:03 GMT -8
The great thing is that it's not on your internet speed at all. It's on the eSnipe servers. Your computer could be off and on fire, and your bid would still go in. I've just spent 20 minutes trying to say exactly this. But my netbook is playing up and my internet speed has suddenly dropped. Had to reboot it. Now if I was trying to place a last second bid, which is what I used to do before Goofbid................ Nuff sed ! I love Goofbid, it's only ever failed me once. I've even started to become a grumpy old man about newbies (and not so newbies) bumping up prices. Back in the dark ages of eBay, the earliest sniping services lived on your computer. There was one I tried called "Cricket". But this was in the days of dial-up. Cricket had to have your computer on, and it would then connect to the internet, then it would connect to eBay's servers, then it would try to execute the bid for you. And it failed every time. Then eSnipe happened. Never ever again would I miss a bid. I might miss winning, or my bid might be too low by the time that only six seconds were too low, but never will that bid fail.
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cd_god
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Post by cd_god on Feb 15, 2014 19:57:10 GMT -8
Having work 3rd shift back in 2001 I won every Ebay auction that ended after 11PM.
In the old days you had to synchronize your watch to the Ebay clock and keep refreshing in order to snipe a bid.
Then a few years ago Ebay caught on and created the countdown timer.
Sniping programs are cheating.
Same as rim searching rolls.
My 1973 struck through debris and my 2 1971D struck on quarter stock and 1974D DDO and all the rest prove that cheaters never prosper.
That's $750 worth of cheater repellant for $2 pictured.
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cobrajet25
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Post by cobrajet25 on Feb 16, 2014 2:02:24 GMT -8
Sniping is utterly pointless, especially now that lots and lots of people do it. Ten years ago, sniping was a good way to win an auction when most people were putting in actual, manual bids when auctions were coming to an end. This was before people fully understood Ebay's concept of "proxy bidding". Nowadays, there are five bids that come in during the first five days, and ten blind snipes that come in during the last five seconds...who does that give an advantage to? If you bid highest, you win. Period. Sniping is named after the lone riflemen who are out trying to score a quiet, one-shot kill. Now, it's millions of people on Ebay all taking blind, last second pot-shots at one target at the same time. Most people don't know it, but sniping actually comes with a very specific and sometimes substantial drawback. When there are two bids of the same amount placed on an item, the first bid takes precedence. Ever had Ebay tell you an item ended for the price you set as your snipe, but also be told you LOST the auction? Well, that is what happened. If I place a bid for $500 two seconds after the auction begins, and you place a bid for $500 two seconds before the auction ends....I WIN!
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Post by Groundhog66 on Feb 16, 2014 6:28:23 GMT -8
Sniping is utterly pointless, especially now that lots and lots of people do it. Ten years ago, sniping was a good way to win an auction when most people were putting in actual, manual bids when auctions were coming to an end. This was before people fully understood Ebay's concept of "proxy bidding". Nowadays, there are five bids that come in during the first five days, and ten blind snipes that come in during the last five seconds...who does that give an advantage to? If you bid highest, you win. Period. Sniping is named after the lone riflemen who are out trying to score a quiet, one-shot kill. Now, it's millions of people on Ebay all taking blind, last second pot-shots at one target at the same time. Most people don't know it, but sniping actually comes with a very specific and sometimes substantial drawback. When there are two bids of the same amount placed on an item, the first bid takes precedence. Ever had Ebay tell you an item ended for the price you set as your snipe, but also be told you LOST the auction? Well, that is what happened. If I place a bid for $500 two seconds after the auction begins, and you place a bid for $500 two seconds before the auction ends....I WIN! Sniping at the last second does still help, it prevents someone from placing multiple bids to just beat your bid by $.50 or $1. Also, when I Snipe, I do not place a bid of even denominations. If you're high bid on a watch is going to be $150, make it $151.45. Many other people out there will just place a high bid of an even denomination, and sometimes that extra dollar or two will get you win.
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Post by seikoholic on Feb 16, 2014 8:24:17 GMT -8
I think the continued usefulness of sniping is twofold (for me anyway). It keeps me from entering a bidding war, or starting one. Ideally this will mean a lower final price.
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