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Post by rossr on Apr 29, 2016 3:00:22 GMT -8
You don't see a Glorious Citizen come up very often. Very rare version of Seiko's GS. Doesn't look terribly flash, but at Y200k with 3 days to go and 52 bids to date, it seems pretty popular. I'll be watching but not bidding.
Go for it guys.
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Post by Thomas on Apr 29, 2016 5:28:21 GMT -8
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Post by rossr on Apr 29, 2016 5:47:14 GMT -8
That's the one. Looks a bit beaten up. I think that I've only seen 2 others come up over the past 5 years or so, so they are a rare beast.
I like Citizens a lot - the slightly quirky nature, and the mystery about some of the rarely seen models is appealing. However, I see the price of this based on rarity (well isn't everything we buy) rather than on merit. It should be equivalent, on merit to a GS of the same era, but I suspect it will be a multiple of that price. That said, I'd still like one.
Be the first on the forum to own one, and earn our respect!!!
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Post by doomguy10011 on Apr 29, 2016 8:50:41 GMT -8
That one looks beautiful! Pity we don't find as many great Citizen vintages as Seikos.
I've been looking for unmolested Citizen chronographs for years, and have only found two in the past year. Seems that the supply for these has just about dried up. Most of the divers have seen much better days, as well.
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Post by rossr on May 2, 2016 6:39:35 GMT -8
Well there you go. North of 397,000 yen is what you would have paid. Over A$5,100.
Actually it was only the 2nd I've ever seen come up. The other, some years ago, had a stained blue dial if I recall.
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Post by rossr on Nov 28, 2017 1:47:32 GMT -8
I’ll add to this old post, as there is little other mention of these rare high grade Citizens. Another Citizen Glorious popped up on YJ, and in the longest, most drawn-out auction I’ve observed, it went for Y420,000, a goodly sum. I recall seeing another a few weeks ago, with incorrect crown and damaged dial, and it too fetched a high price. It is interesting that there is such a price gap in the high-beat 7xxx series watches between these top level GCs and the next level down, the Chronometer Officially Certified, and the Highness. This, along with the 31J Chronometer, will be a watch I’ll never own!  |
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Post by scubarob99 on Nov 28, 2017 2:53:03 GMT -8
I really like Citizens. In fact 3 out of the last 4 watches I got from YJ were Citizens. More affordable, less competition in bidding, but what worries me is the parts availability when something goes wrong.
Rob
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Post by bbilford83 on Dec 1, 2019 19:27:30 GMT -8
Resurrecting this thread to ask if anyone here snagged the lot with the Glorious in it that ended on Yahoo Japan last night (see here). I knew it was a rare model but stupidly didn't google it until after I lost the auction - I was in it at about 100000 yen. Who knows if it's running but given those cosmetics I'd assume even for parts the GC is worth several times what the whole lot ended at (and there are some very nice pieces in there otherwise, including a KS and a beautiful 7015). Really, really kicking myself  . |
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Post by HiBeat on Dec 1, 2019 20:35:25 GMT -8
Brian you have the knack my friend to spot the rare ones in the midst of these poorly described lots.
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Post by rossr on Dec 1, 2019 22:15:49 GMT -8
I didn't spot that one. I was focused on an equally uncommon piece that I had hoped others had not noticed.  This is the "Leopard" diver, examples of which only crop up about once per year at best. I chased this one, but ultimately lost out. That's 0 for 2 in the past week. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 2:03:15 GMT -8
I didn't spot that one. I was focused on an equally uncommon piece that I had hoped others had not noticed. This is the "Leopard" diver, examples of which only crop up about once per year at best. I chased this one, but ultimately lost out. That's 0 for 2 in the past week. I've seen these a few times as well. Always go for crazy prices. While there aren't many highly sought-after vintage Citizens, the ones that are collectable are bid on fiercely within the Japanese market. |
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Post by rossr on Dec 2, 2019 2:53:41 GMT -8
I didn't spot that one. I was focused on an equally uncommon piece that I had hoped others had not noticed. This is the "Leopard" diver, examples of which only crop up about once per year at best. I chased this one, but ultimately lost out. That's 0 for 2 in the past week. I've seen these a few times as well. Always go for crazy prices. While there aren't many highly sought-after vintage Citizens, the ones that are collectable are bid on fiercely within the Japanese market. True. The uncommon divers, particularly the jet-movement divers and the chronomaster diver, do go for very high prices. On the non-diver front the GC, the 31j chronometer and the 4 Mega certainly are outliers. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 11:15:53 GMT -8
I've seen these a few times as well. Always go for crazy prices. While there aren't many highly sought-after vintage Citizens, the ones that are collectable are bid on fiercely within the Japanese market. True. The uncommon divers, particularly the jet-movement divers and the chronomaster diver, do go for very high prices. On the non-diver front the GC, the 31j chronometer and the 4 Mega certainly are outliers. Yep, the Citizen Glorious models are exceptional. Definitely on par with Grand Seiko automatics of the time. But given the ridiculous prices they're going for, it's probably better just to go for a King Seiko or Grand Seiko.  |
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Post by bbilford83 on Dec 15, 2019 10:32:22 GMT -8
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Post by nordlys on Dec 15, 2019 12:24:52 GMT -8
Um, you left off a zero. It went for 400,000 JPY (About $3600). |
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Post by bbilford83 on Dec 15, 2019 15:18:16 GMT -8
Um, you left off a zero. It went for 400,000 JPY (About $3600). Yep, oops. |
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Post by HiBeat on Dec 15, 2019 15:38:35 GMT -8
So are these Citizens so much rarer than the "equivalent" Seikos that the selling prices are 3 times ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 16:54:09 GMT -8
Resurrecting this thread to ask if anyone here snagged the lot with the Glorious in it that ended on Yahoo Japan last night (see here). I knew it was a rare model but stupidly didn't google it until after I lost the auction - I was in it at about 100000 yen. Who knows if it's running but given those cosmetics I'd assume even for parts the GC is worth several times what the whole lot ended at (and there are some very nice pieces in there otherwise, including a KS and a beautiful 7015). Really, really kicking myself . What's with the Speedtimer with chrono buttons and no subdials???  |
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Post by HiBeat on Dec 15, 2019 17:15:25 GMT -8
What's with the Speedtimer with chrono buttons and no subdials??? That's the gorgeous 7017-6010. I have one. Flyback chrono with inner rotating bezel. A tad larger than a Pogue. Really nice. For some reason 7017s are still way way under the radar. They sell for peanuts. Maybe Brad Pitt will wear one in a movie next year like he did with the Citizen Bullhead this year and then the prices will skyrocket. Mine's a Dec 1970 Proof/Proof:  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 18:41:44 GMT -8
What's with the Speedtimer with chrono buttons and no subdials??? That's the gorgeous 7017-6010. I have one. Flyback chrono with inner rotating bezel. A tad larger than a Pogue. Really nice. For some reason 7017s are still way way under the radar. They sell for peanuts. Maybe Brad Pitt will wear one in a movie next year like he did with the Citizen Bullhead this year and then the prices will skyrocket. Mine's a Dec 1970 Proof/Proof: So how does the chrono work? |
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