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Post by Groundhog66 on Aug 14, 2013 11:44:41 GMT -8
What do you guys/gals think of THIS? |
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Post by normdiaz on Aug 14, 2013 12:03:49 GMT -8
The lady seems to enjoy pregnancy. JMHO. (Don't know why, but the song, "I'm My Own Grandpa" keeps popping into my head.)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 13:10:39 GMT -8
What do you guys/gals think of THIS?If your kids can't have children; it's nature's way of saying they weren't meant to. Now the world has two more mouths to fill. Breeding for the sake of breeding is just sick. |
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Post by bobbymike on Aug 14, 2013 18:58:38 GMT -8
Wow, that's a little harsh Pete.
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Post by bobbymike on Aug 14, 2013 18:59:57 GMT -8
How do you feel about organ transplants and cancer treatment?
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Post by bobbymike on Aug 14, 2013 19:01:52 GMT -8
But back to the original question...
I feel it's kinda weird to have your mom (or mother-in-law) be your surrogate, but as long as the taxpayers didn't pay for it I don't care. DOn's get me started on "Octo Mom" though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 19:10:20 GMT -8
Wow, that's a little harsh Pete. The world is in a crisis situation when it comes to food production. This planet cannot sustain many more consuming mouths. We're already seeing signs of this from the food producing community...sewage burgers and stem cell meat; among other things that involve genetic engineering that is probably not good for us. I understand that the priests have written that we must go forth and multiply but when they wrote that crap; there was infinite room for human expansion. Hate China as you will; their on one child per family edict is a rational one; if not unenforceable. If we continue to breed at the rate we are; humanity will eat itself out of food within my children's life time  Population reduction through whatever humanitarian measures; must happen or nature will take care of it as it has done in the past. The only winner in the end will be planet Earth; it will always survive. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 19:21:33 GMT -8
How do you feel about organ transplants and cancer treatment? Not a problem; these situations do not add to the population burden. Saving existing lives is only a short term thing because we all eventually die and move on. Filling a vacant spot on this earth doesn't add to the growing burden; neither does maintaining that spot. What adds to the burden is adding new souls who will have to compete for ever dwindling resources. I know; in a religious sense this seems like blaspheme but we already know that religion is a condition that early power seekers created to control the populace and bend it to their wills. Back then; the priests had no idea that one day, the world would be filled to excess with people and that the ability of the earth to sustain them would be overwhelming and eventually overwhelmed. Little did they know surprised-scream-smiley-emoticon |
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Post by bobbymike on Aug 14, 2013 19:40:05 GMT -8
Actually we are not in a food production crisis. We are in a food distribution crisis. The people who are staving are doing so because they can't get food, or can't grow it because of political problems. They are man made problems. Sad, but true. Making new food sources will not help people starving because local warlords block shipment of foodstuffs or insane dictators shut their borders.
All countries where people are "free" to produce foodstuffs actually have quotas that farmers are not allowed to produce above. There is a huge amount of wastage in our current system. People having less children in the US or Western Europe will not help the system as much of the innovation and industry in the food industry comes from those countries.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 19:56:17 GMT -8
Actually we are not in a food production crisis. We are in a food distribution crisis. The people who are staving are doing so because they can't get food, or can't grow it because of political problems. They are man made problems. Sad, but true. Making new food sources will not help people starving because local warlords block shipment of foodstuffs or insane dictators shut their borders. All countries where people are "free" to produce foodstuffs actually have quotas that farmers are not allowed to produce above. There is a huge amount of wastage in our current system. People having less children in the US or Western Europe will not help the system as much of the innovation and industry in the food industry comes from those countries. Sadly; that is all too true. Yes; there are excesses in some countries but by and large they don't balance out with the shortages. The population control has to happen in countries where rampant growth is unchecked. Places that have tried to put birth control in place are being devastated by the church with propaganda about using condoms. Yes; the Catholic church is a huge part of the problem! These same countries are the ones that don't produce enough food to sustain themselves. If only a fraction of the money spent to keep these third and fourth world countries down was spent to help them become self sufficient; we would be so much farther away from the ultimate starvation of the whole planet. |
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Post by bobbymike on Aug 14, 2013 20:18:10 GMT -8
Areas that don't produce enough food for themselves usually aren't doing so because they are either growing foodstuffs for export (drugs, sugar, Coffee, etc.), or are incapable to do so because of the political climate. Both of these problems are because powerful people are interfering with a process that could work if it was able to. I believe that removing those obstacles is the way to rid this world of food poverty. Very few areas of the world can not produce food. The most inhospitable ones are the areas in which few people live. The idea of monoculture also causes an enormous amount of problems as less developed countries try to emulate more affluent ones in their diets, usually this causes a tremendous amounts of problems (witness the horror that American style crops has unleashed in Africa and the lower Americas).
I agree about the misinformation that the Catholic Church puts out. It has caused much harm. I also believe that anyone who calls himself a Christian should be able to read the Bible and is beholden to no other man for his/her relationship to God. We won't go there right now though. I don't have a problem with condoms as I view life beginning at conception (an early scientific observation of mine and not blind adherence to a doctrine), but abortion is as murderous in my eyes as dumping a baby in a dumpster to be crushed.
However I do see each life as a precious jewel, so I hesitate to be the one who chooses who can have children and who can not. Eugenics is not my cup of tea. I am, at heart, an optimist. I believe that the rightful application of science and technology tempered by people who truly care can solve these issues. It's hard to compete with all the mindless things people pursue instead of caring though (did someone mention the Kardashians earlier?).
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