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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 7:48:32 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 9:03:08 GMT -8
I'm calling #2 AM hands and #1 OEM.
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Post by DAHASCO on Nov 20, 2018 9:16:13 GMT -8
I can only think that if the hands are NOS You would know as they would have been in blister packs with the part #. How did you verify authenticity prior to purchase ? Thanks, Nice watches  How did that bar get there ^^^  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 13:24:54 GMT -8
I can only think that if the hands are NOS You would know as they would have been in blister packs with the part #. How did you verify authenticity prior to purchase ? Thanks, Nice watches How did that bar get there ^^^ This is how I received them.   |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 13:26:39 GMT -8
I'm calling #2 AM hands and #1 OEM. Just managed to confirm from a well known seiko watchmaker about their authenticity. They are genuine. |
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Post by DAHASCO on Nov 20, 2018 13:32:00 GMT -8
Yep, Those are Seiko hands.
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Post by pip on Nov 20, 2018 14:08:49 GMT -8
I'm calling #2 AM hands and #1 OEM. Can I ask why? Only trying to learn but apart from being shiny (as brand new) I thought they look good. But I’m often not up to speed on the tiny details. |
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Post by DAHASCO on Nov 20, 2018 14:34:06 GMT -8
If I recall, There was a post somewhere about these being acceptable replacement hands, Not the same part # as the originals, The second hand may be the original #.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 15:17:09 GMT -8
If I recall, There was a post somewhere about these being acceptable replacement hands, Not the same part # as the originals, The second hand may be the original #. There have been threads on a couple of forums over the years detailing what is OEM and what is AM. Packaging no longer means diddly squat becaus the AM manufacturers have copied that too.
Given how old these watches are, it is highly doubtful that any new looking hands are even made by Seiko.
The more I look at these two watches, the more inclined I am to say they are all AM hands
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Post by tritto on Nov 20, 2018 15:51:39 GMT -8
I also have a set of these hands - probably from the same seller. I wonder if the question might be "are these vintage NOS Seiko hands, or are they a recent Seiko reissue?" I seem to remember Adrian-VTA saying that he could now get a new batch of 6309 hands direct from Seiko Australia. When I bought mine I assumed they were probably from a new batch of OEM hands. I could have been wrong though. |
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Post by pip on Nov 20, 2018 16:12:33 GMT -8
I also have a set of these hands - probably from the same seller. I wonder if the question might be "are these vintage NOS Seiko hands, or are they a recent Seiko reissue?" I seem to remember Adrian-VTA saying that he could now get a new batch of 6309 hands direct from Seiko Australia. When I bought mine I assumed they were probably from a new batch of OEM hands. I could have been wrong though. That would A) explain all the above and B) be bloody fantastic news. |
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Post by Henry on Nov 20, 2018 16:28:54 GMT -8
I seem to remember Adrian-VTA saying that he could now get a new batch of 6309 hands direct from Seiko Australia. Yep.. told me so |
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Post by cobrajet25 on Nov 20, 2018 18:36:57 GMT -8
Those hands are legit.
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Post by HiBeat on Nov 20, 2018 18:46:36 GMT -8
I also got a set of these in very early 2016 Part Numbers 12BF2LKH & 12BF2LKM from Adrian. These are 100% OEM Seiko Official Parts released for god only know what reason, but nonetheless pure Seiko.
That said, they are certainly different from vintage NOS. First off, they glow like a torch like new hands should.
I have a hard time telling what is 'proper'. I just can't keep up with the experts. I know bad AM when I see it, I know great vintage OEM when I see it, and I have no way to defend a set when someone asks. Then there is the 6306/6309 vs 7002 and certainly different 7548 discussion. FWIW, I kinda think the hands on the Thanksgiving Give Away watch are 7548 hands, but I cannot state as an expert. Just my hunch from how the color of the hand is brassy on the pointer side and not on the other end.
So here is my 6309-7049 Hong Kong with the 12BF2LKH & 12BF2LKM hands:
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Post by acidstain on Nov 20, 2018 18:51:30 GMT -8
I also have a set of these hands - probably from the same seller. I wonder if the question might be "are these vintage NOS Seiko hands, or are they a recent Seiko reissue?" I seem to remember Adrian-VTA saying that he could now get a new batch of 6309 hands direct from Seiko Australia. When I bought mine I assumed they were probably from a new batch of OEM hands. I could have been wrong though. Probably under a different part number? Either that or seiko USA is way behind.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 18:54:30 GMT -8
If I recall, There was a post somewhere about these being acceptable replacement hands, Not the same part # as the originals, The second hand may be the original #. If I recall, There was a post somewhere about these being acceptable replacement hands, Not the same part # as the originals, The second hand may be the original #. There have been threads on a couple of forums over the years detailing what is OEM and what is AM. Packaging no longer means diddly squat becaus the AM manufacturers have copied that too.
Given how old these watches are, it is highly doubtful that any new looking hands are even made by Seiko.
The more I look at these two watches, the more inclined I am to say they are all AM hands
The hour hands are beveled inwards this has not been replicated by any AM produce for the 6309. Also the hands on one of the watches above is 100% without the slightest doubt original to the 6309 from factory almost 40 years ago. Given that they are both almost identical ( other than wear) I'm inclined to believe they are all genuine. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 18:58:45 GMT -8
If I recall, There was a post somewhere about these being acceptable replacement hands, Not the same part # as the originals, The second hand may be the original #. Do you know the exact hands part number for the 6309? |
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Post by zul on Dec 4, 2018 16:24:41 GMT -8
If I recall, There was a post somewhere about these being acceptable replacement hands, Not the same part # as the originals, The second hand may be the original #. Do you know the exact hands part number for the 6309? |
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