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Post by appumaster on Sept 29, 2023 7:15:40 GMT -8
A new wave of Seiko AM kits have hit the market. Previously unknown of on these shores.  |
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Post by SeikoSoMatic on Sept 29, 2023 7:29:48 GMT -8
These models with AM parts have been around for quite awhile. Surprised that someone flat out declares the AM parts before selling. At least that's better than trying to fool people. Funny thing is how prices are mostly pretty high even for this stuff.  |
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Post by HiBeat on Sept 29, 2023 9:27:58 GMT -8
Wow thanks for sharing that appumaster ! Seems a lot of fake dials and such are new and getting better by the day. There are really bad faked 6309 divers on ebay that are purported to be restored but just piles of horse dung that use these old vintage movements. I feel bad for the buyers. |
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Post by 69ChevelleSS on Sept 29, 2023 10:04:14 GMT -8
Does the dial actually use a Seiko logo or are these homages under a different brand name? Just curious.
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Post by leffemonster on Sept 29, 2023 11:01:06 GMT -8
Does the dial actually use a Seiko logo or are these homages under a different brand name? Just curious. Oh, they use the Seiko logo for sure Bob. |
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Post by 69ChevelleSS on Sept 29, 2023 11:44:57 GMT -8
Does the dial actually use a Seiko logo or are these homages under a different brand name? Just curious. Oh, they use the Seiko logo for sure Bob. Now that is crazy. Why does Seiko let people get away with staling their IP? |
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Post by mnementh on Sept 29, 2023 13:15:45 GMT -8
If this is all from factories in GuangDong and ShenZhen as most of the counterfeit goods coming across the pond are, then the short version is it's because China has a bigger stick than Japan and generally couldn't care less unless they're paid to care.
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Post by dapellegrini on Sept 29, 2023 16:24:26 GMT -8
Yuck....
I suspect expert validation of vintage Seikos is going to become a thing, like it is for Rolex, Omega and other brands that are thoroughly "faked".
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Post by mnementh on Sept 29, 2023 18:32:04 GMT -8
Sounds to me like a business opportunity for many folk in here...  mnem no, not me. |
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Post by Adrian-VTA on Sept 30, 2023 15:50:59 GMT -8
Not until prices go up again really. Yuck.... I suspect expert validation of vintage Seikos is going to become a thing, like it is for Rolex, Omega and other brands that are thoroughly "faked". |
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Post by Adrian-VTA on Sept 30, 2023 15:51:26 GMT -8
Yep! Sounds to me like a business opportunity for many folk in here... mnem no, not me. |
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Post by HiBeat on Oct 3, 2023 18:02:01 GMT -8
Not until prices go up again really. Yuck.... I suspect expert validation of vintage Seikos is going to become a thing, like it is for Rolex, Omega and other brands that are thoroughly "faked". Not including the atrocious eBay watch authentication program (joke that it is) I could find myself very interested in providing this service. WIS's with an accumulated ken and keen eye, to be intermediaries in a sale, restricted to what we know. Anyone here want to go into a side business with me ?? |
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Post by SeikoSoMatic on Apr 4, 2024 22:10:33 GMT -8
This is what a completely aftermarket 6119-7173 looks like. The only vintage parts in this watch are the movement and the caseback. It looks frighteningly good. Currently on Ebay with full disclosure by the seller...commendable, anyway.  |
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Post by appumaster on Apr 5, 2024 0:32:23 GMT -8
This is what a completely aftermarket 6119-7173 looks like. The only vintage parts in this watch are the movement and the caseback. It looks frighteningly good. Currently on Ebay with full disclosure by the seller...commendable, anyway. I got one myself. It's fun to wear. And for what it's worth, I find it way better than the SRPK checker flag reissue 🤷♂️ in that divers case.  |
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Post by SeikoSoMatic on Apr 5, 2024 2:18:41 GMT -8
This is what a completely aftermarket 6119-7173 looks like. The only vintage parts in this watch are the movement and the caseback. It looks frighteningly good. Currently on Ebay with full disclosure by the seller...commendable, anyway. I got one myself. It's fun to wear. And for what it's worth, I find it way better than the SRPK checker flag reissue 🤷♂️ in that divers case. If sold for, say, $150 and you know what you are buying, fine. What did you pay for yours? Was it offered as AM? |
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Post by appumaster on Apr 5, 2024 3:22:25 GMT -8
I got one myself. It's fun to wear. And for what it's worth, I find it way better than the SRPK checker flag reissue 🤷♂️ in that divers case. If sold for, say, $150 and you know what you are buying, fine. What did you pay for yours? Was it offered as AM? While a complete assembled piece is offered for close to $200 (with a usually shitty movement). The new kit sans the movement is less than $100/pc for a 10 pc MOQ. I just picked 1 kit and popped in my own movement. |
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