What's wrong with this 6105-8110?

[dapellegrini]

This one has been up for a good while now... is it just the price that has it sitting there, or are there other concerns?


I suspect the case may be refinished, but it looks pretty good IMO...  I see these sell all day long for $1600-1800 USD in worse shape and without the original box.  

If it is an amazing deal, please buy it before I do - otherwise please stop me from making a mistake!

[scubarob99]

It's in amazing condition. Seems like the price is right. Don't know enough about these to verify if all is legit, but it looks like it is.

Rob

[dapellegrini]

Perhaps it's that phenomena where a BIN sits there for a fair price, while the 1 YEN starts find a way to end higher...  

If there is something wrong with it, I would guess:

• perhaps some dial aging or lume damage is lurking - since the only good dial photo is in very harsh light, this is sometimes used to hide dial scars IME - though s/he does state that there are no marks on the dial in the description...  (and I can't see any at all!)
• or perhaps the case has been refinished? 
• or I suppose the lume on the seconds hand looks a little too bright maybe?  Does the seconds hand from the re-edition fit these old models?

[saul]

It's stunning.  Maybe all of Seiko's reissues combined with the glut of sub $100 Chinese watches with the case style have diluted the marketplace for good originals?

[dapellegrini]

Maybe an aftermarket Bezel insert?  There is an odd part flaked off inside the 4 in the "40"...  that's the only fault I can find, and if it is an AM bezel, it seems a good one to my eyes.

[inboost]

It's got that 'looks too good to be true' quality about it so I feel a bit skeptical. The auction has ended and the seller has relisted it minus the in-box pictures and a BIN price which is a little bit shady. He's also selling a lot of parts (click on his user name and review his other listings). Then again he has a nearly new 6159-7001 for the low low price of ¥800k so maybe a high end collector?

[Fergus]

It also stated new glass in the original listing. If that had to be replaced I would expect to see other parts with some damage but no. I suspect it's had a very good rework.

[bombora]

Nothing wrong at all.  Just 6105 goodness.

[dapellegrini]

Jan 17, 2024 7:58:46 GMT -8 Fergus said:

It also stated new glass in the original listing. If that had to be replaced I would expect to see other parts with some damage but no. I suspect it's had a very good rework.

I've been skeptical of the same - if the crystal is in bad condition and the bezel is near perfect - WTF?  I have been told (by someone here I think) that the crystal on these sits proud and does take most all of the abuse, so might not really be a red flag.

[Fergus]

Yes I read that somewhere but surely, as eggs is eggs, the bezel and case would get hit at some time.

[DanS]

Jan 17, 2024 5:17:06 GMT -8 inboost said:

It's got that 'looks too good to be true' quality about it so I feel a bit skeptical. The auction has ended and the seller has relisted it minus the in-box pictures and a BIN price which is a little bit shady. He's also selling a lot of parts (click on his user name and review his other listings). Then again he has a nearly new 6159-7001 for the low low price of ¥800k so maybe a high end collector?

The starting price is lower now, and there is also a 15% Buyee coupon available.

[dapellegrini]

Ya, I have a bid in on it based on the feedback here If one of you out bid me, well sobeit...

EDIT: he also removed the images of the original inner and outer box, perhaps he plans on selling those separately. There is a listing right now for one of those too

[Fergus]

It's beginning to sound fishy.

[HiBeat]

link removed please do not put it back

we have rules.....  

[dapellegrini]

HiBeat - sorry - the link was a BIN (Buy it Now) listing with no bidding option.  It expired after I posted it, and if you went searching via the seller's link in the expired BIN you could find the new listing, which is no longer a BIN. 

Just to be clear, are BIN links not allowed?  I am not trying to break any rules, and want to make sure I don't in the future

[HiBeat]

Jan 17, 2024 13:06:21 GMT -8 dapellegrini said:

HiBeat - sorry - the link was a BIN (Buy it Now) listing with no bidding option.  It expired after I posted it, and if you went searching via the seller's link in the expired BIN you could find the new listing, which is no longer a BIN. 

Just to be clear, are BIN links not allowed?  I am not trying to break any rules, and want to make sure I don't in the future

BINs are allowed.  I allowed it when first posted because it was BIN.

I thought when I read your post above you had a bid on it.  So I bombed it out.

[dapellegrini]

That link was always a BIN. Some digging and you can find the new bidding listing - but I had no idea that was gonna happen, and was not in that link.

I guess a strange fringe scenario I’ve created here.

[inboost]

Yeah this thing is a yo-yo going up and down for sale every 24hrs which is an odd selling strategy to me. I can find two box sets for it now out there on YJ as well by simply searching 6105. Who's going to buy it before it takes the next plunge?

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