Never deal with fake?

[Groundhog66]

Here is the first line of the sales ad...

"We are vintage watch collector and never deal with fake."


What say you?   laugh1.gif

[69ChevelleSS]

Dial looks like a re-pop if you ask me.  Printing of "Seiko" looks off.

Can't see clearly if the date window is beveled??

[scubarob99]

I would say that it originated in the Philippines not so long ago.

Rob

[sdoocms]

There is absolutely nothing fake about that watch... laughing1.gif

[Groundhog66]

So I contacted the seller earlier, and let him know what he was selling. Here is the response I got...


Dear grndhog66,

for vintage watch , a lot chance , special or for this kind low price item, there is going to be happen have some replaced part. it will keep it originality as soon as the main movement and body of it.
we say no fake means it has been built by some one complete copy it.
again. pleas no bother if you have higher expeditions

i will block you from buy .

thanks.

thanks

- 8868hwh


DAMN, he's blocking me from buying this beauty...I should have kept me mouth shut.   rolling-lol

[69ChevelleSS]

Jan 3, 2014 18:21:28 GMT -8 Groundhog66 said:

So I contacted the seller earlier, and let him know what he was selling. Here is the response I got...


Dear grndhog66,

for vintage watch , a lot chance , special or for this kind low price item, there is going to be happen have some replaced part. it will keep it originality as soon as the main movement and body of it.
we say no fake means it has been built by some one complete copy it.
again. pleas no bother if you have higher expeditions

i will block you from buy .

thanks.

thanks

- 8868hwh


DAMN, he's blocking me from buying this beauty...I should have kept me mouth shut.   rolling-lol

Bummer man . . . . . you never know when you'll run into a no fake watch like that again!

[saul]

Hard to say exactly how much has been done to this item.  Case has been buffed within an inch of its life.  Pics are not good enough to make an absolute judgement but the dial, hands and insert all look like replacement.  Most amusing is the seller response.  From the broken English I wouldn't have guessed that they are US based.

[C4L18R3]

Other than that iffy Seiko font and unclear view of the date window (beveled?) I wouldn't be able to REALLY say if that's got AM stuff on it  embarrassed-smiley-face

[Groundhog66]

The small text along the bottom of the dial is too tall, should be below the marker. AM dial, "typically" means AM hands. The insert is AM as well. The seller said she previously purchased it on eBay, I think that sums it up.

[Deleted]

Jan 4, 2014 7:34:57 GMT -8 Groundhog66 said:

The small text along the bottom of the dial is too tall, should be below the marker. AM dial, "typically" means AM hands. The insert is AM as well. The seller said she previously purchased it on eBay, I think that sums it up.

Add to that the too small lume pip on the bezel insert, the AM hands(the width of the lume in the minute hand is too narrow and the points on the arrow head are not rounded).

This was likely a Loy product or one of the other HHC cobbler's

[Groundhog66]

I actually got this seller, to reword his listings. He went from never dealing in fake, to "for the originality of any Vintage , buyer has to make own judgment , I will do my best answer your question, but will not guaranty 100%". That's a step in the right direction anyway.

[69ChevelleSS]

Jan 5, 2014 3:15:24 GMT -8 Groundhog66 said:

I actually got this seller, to reword his listings. He went from never dealing in fake, to "for the originality of any Vintage , buyer has to make own judgment , I will do my best answer your question, but will not guaranty 100%". That's a step in the right direction anyway.

You go girl!

[normdiaz]

Jan 3, 2014 18:21:28 GMT -8 Groundhog66 said:

 pleas no bother if you have higher expeditions

Well? Do you have "higher expeditions" planned?  happy1

(And I've noticed some ebayers tend to block bids if the bidder asks "embarrassing" questions.  Must be a self-defense mechanism. )

[HiBeat]

I saw a fake Patek Phillipe and the ad said 'not sure if it's a fake or not' so I emailed the seller to say, um yes, it was a bad fake.   He emailed back 'then don't bid'    My point being the guy knows its fake but won't own up to it and wants to plead ignorance as if that brings him innocence.

[DAHASCO]

Everything is AM except the case itself...Yes, Even the bezel itself and Crown...