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Post by Groundhog66 on Apr 26, 2014 22:05:48 GMT -8
Saw this one that sold recently, I love it!   |
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Post by trandy on Apr 27, 2014 4:53:34 GMT -8
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Post by Groundhog66 on Apr 27, 2014 9:34:14 GMT -8
The models I like, are all out of stock. They're cool, but seriously doubt I'd pay $300 for any of them though. |
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Post by trandy on Apr 27, 2014 9:40:17 GMT -8
I almost pulled the trigger on the 42mm model a couple of times.....$200.00?...yes....$300.00?...no.
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Post by Groundhog66 on Apr 27, 2014 9:48:38 GMT -8
I almost pulled the trigger on the 42mm model a couple of times.....$200.00?...yes....$300.00?...no. Yeah, I think you're on the mark with the $200 price point. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 12:10:17 GMT -8
As the others have said :-)
The movement in these 1963 reissued watches is the ST19 calibre. This calibre is made on the original machinery that produced the Venus 75 movements. The machinery was sold to Chinese concerns when the old Venus was discontinued. The Chinese have since made improvements to the machinery and the calibre which result in a slightly better movement and in improved manufacturing.
Generally speaking this calibre is as robust as you can expect from a chronograph. It is a fairly accurate movement that can be dialed in if it doesn't suit you.
There are only a couple of things to watch for. One of them is poorly cased examples where the pusher c-clips come off and need to be put back on properly. The other is poorly adjusted mechanisms for the chronograph functions. These can all be taken care of if the chrono functions don't seem to work properly.
The 38mm model is the truest to the original in both form and materials. The larger 42mm model deviates both in case size and shape. Many don't like the shape of the larger model, preferring the original 38mm one. It's just a matter of personal taste though as both sizes have the same heart beating inside.
If you buy one, make sure the seller is trusted and has good customer service relations.
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Post by Groundhog66 on Apr 27, 2014 12:33:51 GMT -8
You say these are reissues, are the originals still out there to be had?
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Post by bobbymike on Apr 27, 2014 16:12:46 GMT -8
You say these are reissues, are the originals still out there to be had? They are, but they can be pricey. |
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Post by Groundhog66 on Apr 27, 2014 16:28:54 GMT -8
You say these are reissues, are the originals still out there to be had? They are, but they can be pricey. I'd love to find an original. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 17:44:01 GMT -8
They are, but they can be pricey. I'd love to find an original. Yeh they are pricey and you won't find many in good cosmetic condition :-( Look at the current D308 model to see what the original looked like. |
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Post by donciccio on Apr 28, 2014 13:31:41 GMT -8
I just can't do Chinese movement watches. :-/
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 17:44:58 GMT -8
I just can't do Chinese movement watches. :-/ Why not? |
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Post by donciccio on Apr 29, 2014 19:08:40 GMT -8
I just can't do Chinese movement watches. :-/ Why not? Because of the over abundance of garbage Chinese movements I've come across. In all fairness I haven't really checked out Seagull watches. They might prove me wrong.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2014 14:06:01 GMT -8
Because of the over abundance of garbage Chinese movements I've come across. In all fairness I haven't really checked out Seagull watches. They might prove me wrong. Before the Swiss meltdown when Seiko introduced quartz watches, the Swiss industry was rife with garbage movements. That and ripping one another off was so bad that the Swiss had to pass laws to deal with it! Chinese movements really aren't any more garbage than what the Japanese produce. It's all to a price point. Look at Seiko and the plethora of bitching and complaints about the entry level watches that are common on the forums. It's all about QC. The difference is not the watch movements but the level of QC they get. The Chinese are improving while the Japanese are slipping. For what it's worth, there are many current Chinese manual and automatic movements that are just as well designed and built as the entry level Seiko 7s26, 4r36, etc. We normally only hear about the Chinese watches that died because they only cost $30 or less to start with. Most of these movements are D grade or outright rejects that the factories would not put in their own watches. In fact many of them where supposed to have been disassembled to recycle the good parts(nothing is wasted in China); but enterprising employees ferret them out the back door to the counterfeiters or the mushroom builders. If you pay $150 or more for a Chinese watch from a reputable brand/dealer you will get a good watch that is even more bang for the buck than the bottom of the line Seiko. |
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