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Post by seikoholic on Dec 16, 2014 14:59:27 GMT -8
Bought a watch lot, a sleeper, because of one treasure in it. I was so focused on the one I wanted (6105 top right) that I didn't pay much attention to any of the other watches. I could see vaguely what they were, but what they were wasn't really important. So, when the lot showed up, and my prime target examined and put to one side, I looked at the other watches. I thought "hmm.. a black-dialed 7005.. hmm. Arabic-numeraled dial. What's up with that. Why does that look familiar..... wait, CobraJet's posting about the Vietnam SOG watches! Wasn't one of them one of these?" Why yes, yes it was. This was that model. It's a 7005-8030 from September 1970, proof-marked on the caseback. And when I was looking at the watch, I stopped being distracted by the cracked crystal and external filth, and realized that it was in fact in pretty amazing original condition. Dial and hands were excellent. Both crown and caseback seal were still very pliant. Movement was bright and clean. I didn't have time to service it, but it was running in the 230s so it's not something that needs to happen right away. I did do a deep hand and ultrasonic cleaning of the case elements, and then put in a new crystal. Here we are (sorry for the dust): The seller said that all these watches came from the same estate, so the guy was clearly a Seiko dude. This watch never had a bracelet on it as far as I could tell. No marks of one, anyway. The only interesting thing is that a search for this watch by model number, 7005-8030, comes up with a lot of watches, none of which are this variation. Anyone shed any light on this?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 15:04:17 GMT -8
That is just the casing number. There were probably a few dozen different watches housed in that case.
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Post by sweffymo on Dec 16, 2014 15:05:01 GMT -8
I'm not sure about the model numbering (I recall that some of them might have been special ordered but I may be wrong). What I do know is that I wouldn't mind having one of those one day!
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Post by sdoocms on Dec 16, 2014 15:07:06 GMT -8
That's a nice looking watch!
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Post by HiBeat on Dec 16, 2014 19:36:01 GMT -8
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Post by seikoholic on Dec 16, 2014 19:40:04 GMT -8
I am a big fan of the 7005's I have a few too many myself I am wondering if the watch in the upper right corner is the 7005-8050 and the case back was switched with the one in question? I can't tell from the photo if the other is a 7005 or not so this may make no sense. My 7005-8030 says 'Hello'. Date-only, crown at 4 = 6105. Date-only, crown at 3 = 7005 That's a 6105- 8009 -6009 from June '68. EDIT: I often get numbers twisted around in my head, especially late at night.
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Post by cobrajet25 on Dec 16, 2014 21:34:22 GMT -8
Great looking watch, Spencer. I don't think I have ever seen one of those for sale before.
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Post by seikoholic on Dec 16, 2014 23:16:01 GMT -8
Great looking watch, Spencer. I don't think I have ever seen one of those for sale before.Holy cow, really? Wow. It's sort of weird actually. I did a pretty deep dive on Google, looking through images, and these really aren't seen often at all. Like only a few matches in the past five years to a decade. One guy had a shot of one with two other fake Sea Lions, but didn't even say anything about it, he was talking about the two Feikos, not this model. And the one he had had a "SAMPLE" caseback. This was on the Network54 site, long before my time. And to think I bought this lot for the 6105. The worst part? My wife, who is a huge Vietnam war buff, has now claimed this watch to go with the other 6119 SOG watch we have. So, I still don't own one.
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Post by 69ChevelleSS on Dec 17, 2014 6:45:19 GMT -8
That's really cool Spencer . . . . great looking watch also!
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Post by dasher on Dec 17, 2014 7:21:34 GMT -8
I am a big fan of the 7005's I have a few too many myself I am wondering if the watch in the upper right corner is the 7005-8050 and the case back was switched with the one in question? I can't tell from the photo if the other is a 7005 or not so this may make no sense. My 7005-8030 says 'Hello'. Date-only, crown at 4 = 6105. Date-only, crown at 3 = 7005 That's a 6105-8009 from June '68.I think it reads 6105-6009 on the caseback. Please correct me if I am wrong. Very nice pickup - great price!! D.
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Post by mwbuss8 on Dec 17, 2014 7:38:33 GMT -8
The only interesting thing is that a search for this watch by model number, 7005-8030, comes up with a lot of watches, none of which are this variation. Anyone shed any light on this? These are just a rare dial/case combo. I'm sure plenty search results return with the same case, but different dial/hand combos. I don't know that these were SOG exclusive, but it certainly seems to have been the primary market (whether intended to be or not). I can confirm that it is the correct case back, because mine from Dec '70 is also a 7005-8030.
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Post by seikoholic on Dec 17, 2014 7:45:37 GMT -8
Date-only, crown at 4 = 6105. Date-only, crown at 3 = 7005 That's a 6105-8009 from June '68.I think it reads 6105-6009 on the caseback. Please correct me if I am wrong. Very nice pickup - great price!! Yup, 6009. it was late, my only excuse.
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Post by seikoholic on Dec 17, 2014 7:46:52 GMT -8
The only interesting thing is that a search for this watch by model number, 7005-8030, comes up with a lot of watches, none of which are this variation. Anyone shed any light on this? These are just a rare dial/case combo. I'm sure plenty search results return with the same case, but different dial/hand combos. I don't know that these were SOG exclusive, but it certainly seems to have been the primary market (whether intended to be or not). I can confirm that it is the correct case back, because mine from Dec '70 is also a 7005-8030. I have one downstairs actually, with a grey dial with chrome markers with lume pits in them. Otherwise, identical.
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Post by dasher on Jul 27, 2017 7:47:10 GMT -8
I was going to start a new thread, but once I found this thread I think this may be the best place to post this information.
So, lately I've been doing my best to add to my MAC-V SOG collection. A small, fun alternate direction has been these "cousins" to the Seiko 7005-8030 MAC-V SOG:
I think they all share identical dials and dial codes to the 7005-8030:
But they are certainly different on the case back pictures:
I got really lucky with the gold one, it is essentially LNIB.
The white dial one is a bit rough, but I've only seen 1 or 2 other pictures of this dial style:
And the black one, although an -8032, looks spot-on for the -8030 MAC-V SOG:
I guess now I need to catch the "proper" 7005-8030 to finish the collection:
Back to the hunting grounds!
Dan
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Post by peenemunde on Jul 27, 2017 13:34:33 GMT -8
My white 7005 SOG... Very interestig the "gold" reference.
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Post by bigbluekyle on Jul 27, 2017 18:07:58 GMT -8
Beautiful collection!
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Post by bigbluekyle on Jul 27, 2017 18:10:02 GMT -8
I've never seen the gold variation before...and with the original bracelet...and NOS.
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Post by bigbluekyle on Jul 27, 2017 18:11:39 GMT -8
I like the grey nylon strap that you have used on the black dial. Great looking combination. Is that a new strap or vintage?
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Post by dasher on Jul 27, 2017 19:28:58 GMT -8
I like the grey nylon strap that you have used on the black dial. Great looking combination. Is that a new strap or vintage? Just a green NATO as far as I can tell. Thank you so much for the kind words! Dan
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Post by dasher on Jul 27, 2017 19:30:20 GMT -8
My white 7005 SOG... Very interestig the "gold" reference. Beautiful - may I trouble you for a case back photo for my records? Dan
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