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Post by Rod on Mar 12, 2015 21:13:51 GMT -8
Quick question, has anyone seen or heard of a 6139-6032 with a proof dial, no notch case and a resist case back from April 1971?
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Post by cobrajet25 on Mar 12, 2015 21:18:57 GMT -8
That is a first for me, but it has been my experience that things got a little weird in 1971 as far as these things go. I have a 6139-8001 which has a proof back and a resist dial. I am sure it is original.
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Post by Rod on Mar 12, 2015 22:25:03 GMT -8
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Post by SeikoPsycho on Mar 13, 2015 6:22:07 GMT -8
Well Rod, I have a Proof dial, no notch case. It's original as far as I can tell. I'm not sure of the date off the top of my head. I'm at work at the moment but I'll check when I get home this evening.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 9:48:52 GMT -8
If in doubt walk away.
71 with proof dial, notched case and resist back seems to far apart in my humble o but who knows as there are no serial numbers on anything but the case back. Looks a tidy watch that all said.
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Post by Rod on Mar 13, 2015 14:56:57 GMT -8
If in doubt walk away. 71 with proof dial, notched case and resist back seems to far apart in my humble o but who knows as there are no serial numbers on anything but the case back. Looks a tidy watch that all said. To true, I'll do the walk of doubt :-/ After having a good look at the case it looks to have been refinished, as there seems to be small dings in the edges and the fact that the movement have been overhauled also adds to the concern that this is a "NOS resist" case back fitted to a used proof watch. Rod |
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Post by Rod on Mar 13, 2015 14:57:19 GMT -8
Well Rod, I have a Proof dial, no notch case. It's original as far as I can tell. I'm not sure of the date off the top of my head. I'm at work at the moment but I'll check when I get home this evening. Nooice! |
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Post by SeikoPsycho on Mar 13, 2015 15:06:43 GMT -8
Hey Rod,
I just checked mine and it has a proof case back and is dated Nov. 70'
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Post by Rod on Mar 13, 2015 16:08:22 GMT -8
Hey Rod, I just checked mine and it has a proof case back and is dated Nov. 70' Makes an April 71 "proof/resist" feasible doesn't it!  I think the end price will decide it for me  Rod |
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Post by SeikoPsycho on Mar 13, 2015 16:21:30 GMT -8
Hey Rod, I just checked mine and it has a proof case back and is dated Nov. 70' Makes an April 71 "proof/resist" feasible doesn't it! I think the end price will decide it for me Rod I think you're right and places it right in a possible transition period of using up stock on hand. |
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Post by Rod on Mar 13, 2015 16:25:12 GMT -8
Makes an April 71 "proof/resist" feasible doesn't it! I think the end price will decide it for me Rod I think you're right and places it right in a possible transition period of using up stock on hand. It's great to find these watches as it adds some grey to the perceived black and white of collecting Seiko's  |
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Post by bertnet on Mar 13, 2015 16:29:52 GMT -8
Hi,it should not be a 6031?,with the housing without notch and with "water 70m proof"at 9h it will be the good architecture. There are something strange for me, a compagny like seiko would never mix "resistant" and "proof". Or it could be a mix watch and not original one. but i'M not à specialist  |
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Post by SeikoPsycho on Mar 13, 2015 16:52:20 GMT -8
Hi,it should not be a 6031?,with the housing without notch and with "water 70m proof"at 9h it will be the good architecture. There are something strange for me, a compagny like seiko would never mix "resistant" and "proof". Or it could be a mix watch and not original one. but i'M not à specialist Whoops, I was asleep at the wheel and mine is actually a 6031. In the scope of things I think it still points to the possibility that proof dials they had on hand may have been used until the supply ran out and possibly paired with Resist case backs. |
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Post by bertnet on Mar 13, 2015 17:05:37 GMT -8
I have also thought about this, because I have a 6032 to February 71 resist / proof but I thought it was an anomaly because mine was from Singapore (it was my first vintage seiko i bought, since I took all from Japan).
And it's clearely the same période. In fact,coincidence?
Mine:
6139-6030 0/2 proof
6139-6031 0/O proof
6139-6032 1/2 proof/resist
6139-6032 2/4 resist
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Post by Rod on Mar 13, 2015 17:11:26 GMT -8
Hi,it should not be a 6031?,with the housing without notch and with "water 70m proof"at 9h it will be the good architecture. There are something strange for me, a compagny like seiko would never mix "resistant" and "proof". Or it could be a mix watch and not original one. but i'M not à specialist Bert, the best example of a Proof/Resist watch from Seiko is the 6105-8110. These do exist and are somewhat collectable. |
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Post by bertnet on Mar 13, 2015 17:28:36 GMT -8
In fact!  |
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Post by bertnet on Mar 13, 2015 17:37:41 GMT -8
Rod,have you seen on the bay à 6139-6032 at almost 1300$ crasy no? And lower looking comparing to this one on yahoo japan.
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Post by Rod on Mar 13, 2015 17:56:53 GMT -8
Rod,have you seen on the bay à 6139-6032 at almost 1300$ crasy no? And lower looking comparing to this one on yahoo japan.  Amazing what people are asking. We should start buying them all up and use them as a retirement fund.. |
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Post by bertnet on Mar 13, 2015 18:17:48 GMT -8
OK start, I would take the second half |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 1:59:45 GMT -8
Hi,it should not be a 6031?,with the housing without notch and with "water 70m proof"at 9h it will be the good architecture. There are something strange for me, a compagny like seiko would never mix "resistant" and "proof". Or it could be a mix watch and not original one. but i'M not à specialist They do mix my good man but I've never seen a resist dial with a proof caseback. Also I've had proof/proof 6139-6000s that were newer than some resist/resist 6139-6000s I've owned. Due to an American law about proof not being correct Seiko changed their dials to suit. As I see it Seiko had so many dials already made it would have cost a small fortune to scrap them all so they were fitted and likely sold in countries other than the USA until they had run out of stock of all the old proof dials and casebacks. Just a theory but it makes good buisness sense. |
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I think the end price will decide it for me 
Amazing what people are asking. We should start buying them all up and use them as a retirement fund..