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Post by docmac88 on Mar 14, 2015 12:43:51 GMT -8
I have seen the posts with the excellent Sportsmatics and Champions, both styles very nice. I am interested in the earliest model automatic dress watch with only a date function. Any suggestions and pics would be greatly appreciated!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 12:59:07 GMT -8
Most of the date only movements began around 1960. Here are a couple...  6602-8050  6602-8050  7005-8060 |
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Post by lordflagpolecrabtree on Mar 14, 2015 13:26:38 GMT -8
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Post by stevenjohn on Mar 14, 2015 13:44:02 GMT -8
I really like the 7625 too. This is a 7625-8041 from 1966.  |
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Post by lordflagpolecrabtree on Mar 14, 2015 14:13:17 GMT -8
I really like the 7625 too. This is a 7625-8041 from 1966. Very nice. 7dfe79adc2f0 I have a couple of those, but not as nice as yours. Also have a (slightly bigger and very very plasticy) 8043.  |
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Post by docmac88 on Mar 14, 2015 14:27:07 GMT -8
Great watches. Can someone tell me the dimensions of the 7625. Also the 6206 appears to be a relatively large watch. My wrist size is 7.5 in (roughly 19 cm).
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Post by stevenjohn on Mar 14, 2015 14:47:11 GMT -8
Very nice. 7dfe79adc2f0 I have a couple of those, but not as nice as yours. Also have a (slightly bigger and very very plasticy) 8043. Very nice as well. I also have some 6619's, but the OP asked for date only. Oh and I have this:  |
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Post by stevenjohn on Mar 14, 2015 14:53:04 GMT -8
Great watches. Can someone tell me the dimensions of the 7625. Also the 6206 appears to be a relatively large watch. My wrist size is 7.5 in (roughly 19 cm). The 8238 is 38mm and the 8041 is 37mm. The crowns are pretty much flush with the case. |
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Post by lordflagpolecrabtree on Mar 14, 2015 15:17:04 GMT -8
Great watches. Can someone tell me the dimensions of the 7625. Also the 6206 appears to be a relatively large watch. My wrist size is 7.5 in (roughly 19 cm). I've never measured the 7625s, but I have very small wrists and they don't wear too large at all. The 6206s are not big either. I have a pic somewhere (can't find it at the moment) of myself and my two daughters wearing these three. 2 of 6206-8001 and a larger 6206-9000  
EDIT: Found it.  The larger 9000 is actually on my eldest but smallest daughter's wrist, so you can see it's not huge. Then there's the hacking 6106  |
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Post by sweephand on Mar 14, 2015 16:23:00 GMT -8
If you want to venture beyond Seiko, Citizen's Jet automatics from the early 1960s might be of interest:    Or a mid-1960s 'Uni':  Stephen |
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Post by docmac88 on Mar 14, 2015 16:45:22 GMT -8
Lord...thanks for those pics ( neat to have your family involved) with those nice 6206s. The linen dialed (at least appears that way) 6106 is sharp!
Stephen... 39J ?? Super jJet, wow! ( is that some sort of maximum jewel count?) is great. The linen dialed UNI is very attractive.
The linen dials seem to be attracting my eye
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Post by lordflagpolecrabtree on Mar 15, 2015 0:39:55 GMT -8
Sorry about the dates on the 6206s. Long journey, and a bottle of wine may have confuzzled my brain a bit, and I forgot you'd asked about date only.  There is the 8305-1000 too, which is about the same size as the 6206-9000. I've seen it in silver and black dials. I only have the black at the moment:  Sweephand's Citizens are beautiful, and now it's made me want to go find some  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 8:17:39 GMT -8
Originally I was into the chronos but now I much prefer my vintage dress watches by Seiko and Citizen. They can be brought for not a whole heap of beans either. These are the prettier dialed watches I have but I also have a few 7625-19xx series watches with plan dials I also love to wear. May 1964 Seikomatic 6206-8990  May 64 7625 movement 82800  1968 8306-8001  1965 6106-8060 Sea lion on original Stelux bracelet.  Citizen Rookie Autodater c1963  Citizen Super Jet c1964  |
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Post by estrickland on Mar 15, 2015 10:22:46 GMT -8
Sportsman, Sportsmatic, ParaWater, Weekdater, Business-A. These seem like regular work/sportswatches - much like an Omega Planet Ocean is these days. Over time, with taste in watches moving larger and larger, these have become 'undersized' - but I don't see how that transforms them from work/sports to dress watches. Seiko makes and made dress watches:  ... but I don't know how many of these are automatic / have a date complication - as neither of those are important to a dress watch, and I'm not much of a dress watch guy (hard to pull off with flip-flops). |
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Post by sweephand on Mar 15, 2015 11:44:30 GMT -8
Lord...thanks for those pics ( neat to have your family involved) with those nice 6206s. The linen dialed (at least appears that way) 6106 is sharp! Stephen... 39J ?? Super jJet, wow! ( is that some sort of maximum jewel count?) is great. The linen dialed UNI is very attractive. The linen dials seem to be attracting my eye Citizen did a 43 jewel Crystal Seven in the mid-1960s, but 39 was next highest. Linen dials are very nice  Stephen |
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Post by sweephand on Mar 15, 2015 11:49:00 GMT -8
Sportsman, Sportsmatic, ParaWater, Weekdater, Business-A. These seem like regular work/sportswatches - much like an Omega Planet Ocean is these days. I guess the Para Water models are more of a regular / work type of watch. Maybe the absence of a date window is more likely to be associated with dress watches. Here's a Jet that is more dress style:  Stephen |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 12:29:45 GMT -8
The downside to the absolutely beautiful Jets is getting spares for Citizen watches as far as I can see compared to Seiko's of the same period.
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Post by docmac88 on Mar 15, 2015 13:17:59 GMT -8
Sportsman, Sportsmatic, ParaWater, Weekdater, Business-A. These seem like regular work/sportswatches - much like an Omega Planet Ocean is these days. Over time, with taste in watches moving larger and larger, these have become 'undersized' - but I don't see how that transforms them from work/sports to dress watches. Seiko makes and made dress watches: ... but I don't know how many of these are automatic / have a date complication - as neither of those are important to a dress watch, and I'm not much of a dress watch guy (hard to pull off with flip-flops). Yes I agree that the pure dress watch would likely be defined by no added complication. My personal tastes ( which have been molded by my just recent exposure to this hobby) tend to put watches that have up to day ( /date), optional water resistance, buto are not chronos, in my "dress watch" category. Historically it seems that the early sixties were the time when companies were touting their shock resistance therefore more diashock, parashock on the dial? |
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Post by doomguy10011 on Mar 15, 2015 13:58:31 GMT -8
These early 60s date only automatics are really great. Finding them in good condition is getting harder and harder these days.
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Post by sweephand on Mar 15, 2015 14:05:34 GMT -8
The downside to the absolutely beautiful Jets is getting spares for Citizen watches as far as I can see compared to Seiko's of the same period. Yep. Stephen |
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