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Post by dnill on Apr 29, 2015 11:56:50 GMT -8
Just wanted to check with you guys. There is a 6105 waffle strap on the bay, 251938660947.
It's described as the real deal but I think it looks like the early repro strap from wjean? The logo looks a bit off.
What do you think?
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Post by funkster on Apr 29, 2015 12:35:12 GMT -8
I kind of hope it is a fake as he has vastly undercut the price I have one advertised for!
At risk of breaking the rules for discussing your own auctions... It has been interesting trying to work out the correct price for a genuine NOS one...
I first posted with a reserve of £250, and despite the advice of a learned WIS that it should make about £800 the highest bid didn't even reach the reserve.
It has sat with a £500 BIN for a week even though some other geezer has the only one on the planet for sale for twice that!
Q: How much is it worth?
A: The amount someone is prepared to pay!
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Post by estrickland on Apr 29, 2015 23:35:16 GMT -8
Looking at my 2 original ZLM01's and several reproductions - this is a WJean repro. The zig molding line at the lugs is the #1 giveaway - this doesn't match the molds used by Seiko but it does match WJean's exactly. There are a few others, but they're more subtle: The waffle isn't sharp enough There's a break between the textured and waffled section on the keepers. The SEIKO font is off. The surfaces on the back of the strap aren't crisp enough - there's a clear molding line on both of my original ZLM01's, which are smoothed on the repro. You can see this in funkster's legit listing:  As for the $772 price, good luck with your sale. Maybe the $1500 crazy-sauce listing will help you get a bidder. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 2:08:22 GMT -8
WJeans doesn't have the Seiko on the clasp.
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Post by dnill on Apr 30, 2015 4:21:26 GMT -8
Ok, that comfirms it. Now when you mention the flaws there obviously there. Actually the first edition of wjean's repros were seiko branded. Don't know for how long though.
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Post by estrickland on Apr 30, 2015 7:06:13 GMT -8
WJeans doesn't have the Seiko on the clasp. I have a branded WJean with this text exactly, and I'm pretty sure I didn't swap an OEM buckle onto it, but my memory - she is not so good. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 8:05:44 GMT -8
WJeans doesn't have the Seiko on the clasp. I have a branded WJean with this text exactly, and I'm pretty sure I didn't swap an OEM buckle onto it, but my memory - she is not so good. Mine just says Japan stainless on the buckle. It has Seiko Japan on the strap though. I was told the WJeans are excellent copies but they have two flaws. One the clasp doesn't say Seiko and secondly they are a tad on the hard side and need soaking in hot water to soften them up a bit. Just what I've been told and noticed on my WJeans. |
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