normdiaz
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Post by normdiaz on Sept 16, 2013 9:48:20 GMT -8
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Post by timewatcher on Sept 16, 2013 9:52:28 GMT -8
$100.00 for the Citizen...................sign me up! Where do I get one??
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Post by normdiaz on Sept 16, 2013 9:57:37 GMT -8
$100.00 for the Citizen...................sign me up! Where do I get one?? Doable, but maybe in the demo/display/buyer-return/nos categories. |
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Post by buddy123 on Sept 17, 2013 7:19:14 GMT -8
Not a bad effort by Citizen admittedly...........but a Rolex is a Rolex........why bother to copy it?
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Post by DonnaCiccio on Sept 17, 2013 7:39:08 GMT -8
Not a bad effort by Citizen admittedly...........but a Rolex is a Rolex........why bother to copy it? Because it makes money a115. |
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Post by buddy123 on Sept 17, 2013 7:50:36 GMT -8
Not a bad effort by Citizen admittedly...........but a Rolex is a Rolex........why bother to copy it? Because it makes money a115. Not my money Chris lol Mine went on the real thing as you know a108 |
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DonnaCiccio
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Post by DonnaCiccio on Sept 17, 2013 8:06:36 GMT -8
Because it makes money a115. Not my money Chris lol Mine went on the real thing as you know a108 I'm sure HE does.  The Rolex a classic style that will continue to be copied and duplicated for years to come. |
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Post by Groundhog66 on Sept 17, 2013 8:06:48 GMT -8
I kinda like it...  |
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Post by bladedogg on Sept 19, 2013 0:46:21 GMT -8
Sorry, I would have to pass on that citizen...
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Post by HiBeat on Sept 24, 2013 18:47:37 GMT -8
Pretty silly to have equal check marks in the "In-House Movement" columns !
Rolex Cal. 3135 is COSC and most run +/- 1 sec./day. My last Citizen Eagle 7 Datejust homage ran +12 sec/day.
Every Rolex model has been paid tribute to by Seiko and/or Citizen. If it's "The Look" you want that is the way to go for sure. If the timepiece is what matters to you, let's get serious for a moment and stop bothering to compare apples to oranges.
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Tyrone Jenkins
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Post by Tyrone Jenkins on Sept 24, 2013 19:29:24 GMT -8
D. Freemont vs Davosa
I read an article in the Watch Times annual back in 2003 that featured D. Freemont original watches.
I have owned a few and was impressed with the designs, the limited edition status, reasonable price, and accuracy of the ETA movements.
He regulated every watch before it shipped to the original owner and included the timing sheet and all of mine new or preowned were +- 5 sec a day.
After a few years and searching the internet with his correlation as being the NA distributor of Davosa watches it turns out he used Davosa cases with dials of his own design individually numbered and off the shelf hands.
Again no foul as this is how I was turned onto the Davosa brand.
I finally found my Davosa Pares orange dial after 5 years and it runs 30 sec fast a day.
So what do you get with a rebranded "limited edition" watch.
Sometimes more than you expect for the price.
As to the Rolex VS. the world argument you might as well pair up Rolex VS. Harley Davidson for the UFC Championship.
If they had as many engineers as lawyers you might actually own something worth a damn if it wasn't for their marketing machines . . . . .
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Tyrone Jenkins
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Post by Tyrone Jenkins on Sept 24, 2013 19:36:29 GMT -8
Pretty silly to have equal check marks in the "In-House Movement" columns ! Rolex Cal. 3135 is COSC and most run +/- 1 sec./day. My last Citizen Eagle 7 Datejust homage ran +12 sec/day. Every Rolex model has been paid tribute to by Seiko and/or Citizen. If it's "The Look" you want that is the way to go for sure. If the timepiece is what matters to you, let's get serious for a moment and stop bothering to compare apples to oranges. While you can build a pretty nasty 350 HP Toyota 22RET out of a 100HP 22R block somethings were never meant to be. While Rolex can claim COSC out of their +$5K watches any competent watchmaker can swap the escapement for $12 from the parts houses on an $300 watch based on an ETA 2892 movement and get the same results. I know because my remastered Omega Dynamic is 2 sec a day no matter how I lay it down  |
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Post by HiBeat on Sept 26, 2013 12:28:46 GMT -8
So true. So many watches can be regulated to COSC, it's rather easy to achieve really.
My Datejust came from the factory at +0.7 s/d and has stayed there spot on regardless of season, activity level, etc. I used the Twixt iPad app to check its time over 2 weeks and the app reported "+ 0 sec/day" Kinda nice performance.
We all appreciate the fit and finish of a fine watch, like the Grand Seikos and Rolexes and Omegas and Brietlings, but in reality just for very good timekeeping there are many more economical options. These watches are for those who want great timekeeping and a little more.
Kinda like how a 2013 Ford Focus or Kia Optima have the same check list of features as a $100K Mercedes and they all drive quite well, but build quality and the subtle deeply engineered differences command the higher price for the Mercedes for those who can afford it.
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Post by josejmartinez on Sept 26, 2013 18:19:37 GMT -8
I was able to buy one of the last orients that are a homage to the Rolex. The black face was unavailable so I got the blue one. It is supposed to be the best look alike. Cost if I remember well was $130.00 with Island.
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Post by kingrat on Sept 26, 2013 22:57:16 GMT -8
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Post by serdal22 on Sept 26, 2013 23:21:04 GMT -8
I like the Citizen Sub. Did I read correctly, "Vintage"? So, this is an older Citizen model?
I love Automatic Citizens. I wish there were more Auto models rather then 80% Ecodrive movement.
Thanks for sharing . . .
Capt. Serdal
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2013 10:33:55 GMT -8
I think his conclusions are quite probably spot on! |
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Post by kingrat on Sept 27, 2013 10:47:13 GMT -8
I think his conclusions are quite probably spot on! Yep, think ill pass. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2013 11:17:35 GMT -8
I think his conclusions are quite probably spot on! Yep, think ill pass. From that article; I think it is safe to assume that a nice Alpha homage with the ST-16 calibre movement would be a good choice and a step up in terms of manufacturing. |
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Post by kingrat on Sept 27, 2013 11:37:09 GMT -8
From that article; I think it is safe to assume that a nice Alpha homage with the ST-16 calibre movement would be a good choice and a step up in terms of manufacturing. Pin drops:-) |
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The Rolex a classic style that will continue to be copied and duplicated for years to come. 
