trilo
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Post by trilo on Nov 28, 2021 7:59:57 GMT -8
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inboost
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Post by inboost on Nov 28, 2021 8:19:14 GMT -8
Oh my, the "METAL" on the case back has me laughing out loud trilo
Sorry I'm no help though the identification.
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bolto
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Post by bolto on Dec 1, 2021 18:27:49 GMT -8
Has a distinct look of a World War 1 "trench watch" if you ask me. That dates it around 1905 - 1920ish in my completely amateur opinion.
Mark
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pip
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Post by pip on Dec 2, 2021 6:09:42 GMT -8
Are there any marking on the plate around where the balance cock is located? Often a manf mark there for the ebauche.
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trilo
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Post by trilo on Dec 2, 2021 13:28:21 GMT -8
Are there any marking on the plate around where the balance cock is located? Often a manf mark there for the ebauche. Only marking I can find besides Swiss made and 15 j 2 adj. is a punch mark on the main plate (at least that's what it looks to me) above the balance wheel next to the escape wheel pivot bridge. Can be seen in the photo and looks a little bit like four leaf clover. No markings near the balance plate. I'm gonna take a better look tomorrow. Thanks guys!
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Post by trilo on Dec 2, 2021 14:01:54 GMT -8
I discovered following markings under the dial. Movement is pre WWII. I guess the other mark is the Makers logo. Any idea who the maker is? I couldn't find it from various listings of old Swiss makers with a quick googling. EDIT: There is an ebay listing of a movement with exactly the same markings.
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bolto
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Post by bolto on Dec 2, 2021 15:19:50 GMT -8
AS = A Schild? Google "A Schild 554" and some very similar looking watches comes up. A Schild S.A. (ASSA) started in the 1890s so timing seems right.
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pip
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Post by pip on Dec 2, 2021 17:01:46 GMT -8
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Post by pip on Dec 2, 2021 17:19:38 GMT -8
And a bit more research reveals that your logo is for Ebauches Trust which dates it to between 1925 and 1935 allegedly. Ebauches Trust was a forerunner that eventually became ETA and A Schild was a founder member. (Info from internet searches so please assume it is all wrong and only placed there to persuade us to obey our lizard overlords).
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trilo
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Post by trilo on Dec 2, 2021 20:46:31 GMT -8
Hmmm...
Maybe I'll clean it, straighten the lugs and just wear it.
Runs as it is, but is as dirty as can be!
Thank you guys, mystery solved!
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Post by trilo on Dec 2, 2021 23:05:17 GMT -8
Ok.
Took it apart and started working on it. Main spring was broken, but managed to source a spring (didn't realize how amazing watchguy.co.uk is until now).
Should be a breeze. Very simple movement.
Did watches of this era provide any protection for the stem hole?
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pip
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Post by pip on Dec 3, 2021 1:01:07 GMT -8
Ok. Took it apart and started working on it. Main spring was broken, but managed to source a spring (didn't realize how amazing watchguy.co.uk is until now). Should be a breeze. Very simple movement. Did watches of this era provide any protection for the stem hole? Not really. It was about this time that a fella called Hans Wisldorf thought about making watches dust and water proof. He had a little bit of success with it. He had started a watch company a few years before. And just because he liked the way the name sat on the dial he decided to call it Rolex...
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