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Post by Groundhog66 on Jan 29, 2014 8:41:06 GMT -8
I know there have been many threads regarding this topic, but I was hoping to put one together here. I'd like to know exactly what to look for, when trying to spot AM hands for the 6309-704x divers. Sharpness of the edges, width of lume? Side by side pics would be outstanding, can anyone provide that here?
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Post by seikoholic on Jan 29, 2014 9:46:52 GMT -8
The new AM flat hands out of the Philippines are really hard to spot. The biggest difference that I can see is that the lume itself is much much finer on the AM hands. Original Seiko lume of this period has a salty, grainy look under magnification, even slight magnification. The new lume is very flat and fine. The hands themselves look great, but only the hour & minute hands. The sweep hands still look terrible with rounded tops, and the width of the metal is too narrow around the lume at the tip.
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Post by Groundhog66 on Jan 29, 2014 11:03:09 GMT -8
The new AM flat hands out of the Philippines are really hard to spot. The biggest difference that I can see is that the lume itself is much much finer on the AM hands. Original Seiko lume of this period has a salty, grainy look under magnification, even slight magnification. The new lume is very flat and fine. The hands themselves look great, but only the hour & minute hands. The sweep hands still look terrible with rounded tops, and the width of the metal is too narrow around the lume at the tip. Any chance of some side by side pics? |
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Post by timewatcher on Jan 29, 2014 11:07:31 GMT -8
Side by side pics would definitely be nice as I have a hell of a time myself trying to determine if hands are OEM or AM
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Post by Groundhog66 on Jan 29, 2014 11:24:54 GMT -8
This is the "grainy" look of OEM hands, but it's typically impossible to tell on sellers pics.  |
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Post by Groundhog66 on Jan 29, 2014 11:29:07 GMT -8
Here is a decent shot of all 3 hands.  |
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Post by sdoocms on Jan 29, 2014 11:52:57 GMT -8
Here is a decent shot of all 3 hands. Awesome photograph! |
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Post by seikoholic on Jan 29, 2014 13:01:26 GMT -8
I look at the grain of the lume and the sweep hand. That big flat-topped circle, that's real. The AM's all get that wrong AFAIK. I'll get some side-by-side shots here but I'm neck deep in a rebuild.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 13:25:12 GMT -8
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Post by seikola on Jan 29, 2014 17:37:40 GMT -8
I look at the minute hand as pretty much all the aftermarket ones have sharp points either side of the arrowhead, genuine ones are slightly rounded, but confusingly it may be that earlier hands had pointy corners so I then have to check the lume, but as has been mentioned this is bloomin hard to judge from an ebay photo, the aftermarket ones are getting better as far as the seconds hand is concerned, still not quite right though,  seikola |
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Post by lucilinburhuc on Jan 30, 2014 2:43:11 GMT -8
Just passing by here, nice to see some good 6309 discussions going on  |
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Post by russtmurray on Jan 30, 2014 8:14:24 GMT -8
Wow, I wonder if he took those photos with his sister's camera? He sure has come a long way since then. Perhaps there's hope for me yet...never stop learning....hell I'm inclined to crack open my old calculus text book and reacquaint myself with that "new" math! |
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Post by seikoholic on Feb 4, 2014 16:23:10 GMT -8
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Post by psrivats on Feb 12, 2014 23:26:31 GMT -8
It's getting pretty hard to tell AM hands apart .. Thanks for sharing the photos, Spencer.
(Sent from my mobile, please pardon my spelling)
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Post by russtmurray on Feb 13, 2014 8:50:16 GMT -8
Just curious. Has anyone tried out Yokobies offerings? I'm not too concerned about the "pointieness" per se, but it's the lume colour I'm wondering about. I need to replace the hands on of my 6309's because they have a green hue to them. Although I'd prefer a slightly aged OEM pair, something in just plain 'ol white would do.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 10:55:09 GMT -8
Three shots, hopefully they're instructive. Not very good - best I could do with an iPhone and a loupe.    OEM hor hand on the left. OEM minute hand on the right. OEM seconds hand on the left. Right..er..correct? |
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Post by seikoholic on Feb 13, 2014 13:04:27 GMT -8
Yes! I should have had all the orientations the same way. Left right left.
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Post by DAHASCO on Feb 18, 2014 14:11:17 GMT -8
Take into consideration the fitment of AM hands, They aren't always good...Like the AM crowns, Dials etc...
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