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Post by Groundhog66 on Feb 19, 2014 21:13:41 GMT -8
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Post by cobrajet25 on Feb 20, 2014 0:42:30 GMT -8
Nice watch. I like the fact that it is on it's original bracelet. Wonder if the quickset works? If it does, then it was certainly worth the money. Note that it is a '69 US market watch, and it is marked Water Resist not Waterproof.
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Post by seikoholic on Feb 20, 2014 7:24:17 GMT -8
It is so annoying that no one makes a new replacement part for the 5606 quickset. They're great watches but this Achilles Heel of theirs is just a killer.
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Post by Groundhog66 on Feb 20, 2014 7:48:58 GMT -8
It is so annoying that no one makes a new replacement part for the 5606 quickset. They're great watches but this Achilles Heel of theirs is just a killer. Are the internal parts plastic? What are the issues?
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Post by seikoholic on Feb 20, 2014 8:27:14 GMT -8
It is so annoying that no one makes a new replacement part for the 5606 quickset. They're great watches but this Achilles Heel of theirs is just a killer. Are the internal parts plastic? What are the issues? yeah, the quickset wheel itself, the corrector, is plastic. And it shrinks with age, even if never used. So they crack into pieces, even NOS ones in the package.
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Post by Groundhog66 on Feb 20, 2014 8:30:05 GMT -8
Are the internal parts plastic? What are the issues? yeah, the quickset wheel itself, the corrector, is plastic. And it shrinks with age, even if never used. So they crack into pieces, even NOS ones in the package. Jeez, obviously someone made a bad decision, regarding materials used in that particular part.
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Post by seikoholic on Feb 20, 2014 9:04:43 GMT -8
yeah, the quickset wheel itself, the corrector, is plastic. And it shrinks with age, even if never used. So they crack into pieces, even NOS ones in the package. Jeez, obviously someone made a bad decision, regarding materials used in that particular part. Yeah, it's bad. So the LM's, which are otherwise fantastic watches, are almost always faced with this issue, and there's no resolution that I'm aware of.
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Post by Rod on Feb 20, 2014 15:02:52 GMT -8
I remember this being discussed in another place, Hermann (startsomething) is the man that did the research and may have had a solution, just going off my fading memory!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2014 15:41:00 GMT -8
Randall Benson manufactured a new one. It was in metal and a one-off. A lot of difficult work for one tiny part that could probably churned out in China for pennies then sold for several dollars or more!
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Post by Rod on Feb 20, 2014 16:13:46 GMT -8
Randall Benson manufactured a new one. It was in metal and a one-off. A lot of difficult work for one tiny part that could probably churned out in China for pennies then sold for several dollars or more! I seem to remember that the same part, but with a different part number, as it was made from metal, was fitted to a GS
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Post by cobrajet25 on Feb 20, 2014 23:44:41 GMT -8
The corrector has essentially the same problem that the pushers on the 7A28-700x "Aliens" chrono has. Plastic that wants to shrink with age is put over a metal part that does not want to shrink with it. The corrector hub is made of metal. The actual corrector (kinda like a black plastic starwheel) which is pressed onto the hub, is meant to friction-slip on the hub if the day/date quickset is used when the day/date are changing over at midnight. It is not a design flaw...it is a safety mechanism for preventing damage to the movement due to "operator error". Unfortunately, the plastics used back then did not age as well as the plastics they use today. They shrink, and the corrector cracks. This makes it lose the friction it has with the hub, and the corrector no longer "corrects". ALL 56-series watches have this problem...even the mighty 564x Grand Seiko.
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Post by Rod on Feb 20, 2014 23:49:19 GMT -8
The corrector has essentially the same problem that the pushers on the 7A28-700x "Aliens" chrono has. Plastic that wants to shrink with age is put over a metal part that does not want to shrink with it. The corrector hub is made of metal. The actual corrector (kinda like a black plastic starwheel) which is pressed onto the hub, is meant to friction-slip on the hub if the day/date quickset is used when the day/date are changing over at midnight. It is not a design flaw...it is a safety mechanism for preventing damage to the movement due to "operator error". Unfortunately, the plastics used back then did not age as well as the plastics they use today. They shrink, and the corrector cracks. This makes it lose the friction it has with the hub, and the corrector no longer "corrects". ALL 56-series watches have this problem...even the mighty 564x Grand Seiko. Arh ha, I should have paid more attention! Now i know!! This is why i love this forum, true enthusiasts happy to share there knowledge
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Post by martog on Feb 21, 2014 4:34:14 GMT -8
LM Series watches are great watches but what you have noted would put all but very serious collectors away. I remember from the olde SCWF these problems coming up on a fairly regular basis.
Cheers Mark.
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