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Post by seikoholic on Jul 17, 2014 9:53:59 GMT -8
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Post by igniferroque on Jul 17, 2014 11:02:03 GMT -8
That doesn't look like it fits the case at all.
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Post by sdoocms on Jul 17, 2014 11:18:24 GMT -8
Nice looking combo! My 6139-6012 has very similar looking end pieces. They too have a very loose fit to the case. I wonder if that is from being worn or if it was what Seiko wanted it to look like.
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Post by Groundhog66 on Jul 17, 2014 11:40:22 GMT -8
Would definitely be a nice combo, if the end links were tight to the case.
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Post by seikoholic on Jul 17, 2014 11:51:36 GMT -8
That doesn't look like it fits the case at all. These stupid "hidden connector" endlinks just seem to be generally terrible. They never stay where they're supposed to, they're always rattly. |
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Post by seikoholic on Jul 17, 2014 11:52:04 GMT -8
Would definitely be a nice combo, if the end links were tight to the case. Takes work, but it can be done. It's an original setup on a fantastic original watch, if I'm any judge. |
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Post by seikoholic on Jul 17, 2014 11:52:24 GMT -8
Nice looking combo! My 6139-6012 has very similar looking end pieces. They too have a very loose fit to the case. I wonder if that is from being worn or if it was what Seiko wanted it to look like. bad design actually, if you ask me. |
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Post by saul on Jul 17, 2014 14:15:11 GMT -8
Nice looking combo! My 6139-6012 has very similar looking end pieces. They too have a very loose fit to the case. I wonder if that is from being worn or if it was what Seiko wanted it to look like. bad design actually, if you ask me. Even the H-Link end links for the -600x cases were a bad design, at least as executed by Seiko. Jonathan's were 100x better. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 14:46:05 GMT -8
bad design actually, if you ask me. Even the H-Link end links for the -600x cases were a bad design, at least as executed by Seiko. Jonathan's were 100x better. ...and facebook hasn't been the same since he left us  |
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Post by seikoholic on Jul 17, 2014 14:46:43 GMT -8
Even the H-Link end links for the -600x cases were a bad design, at least as executed by Seiko. Jonathan's were 100x better. ...and facebook hasn't been the same since he left us That's how I knew things were serious, when he stopped posting on Facebook. Ugh I just remembered again that he's gone. So easy to fall back into thinking I just haven't talked to him for a bit. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 14:49:19 GMT -8
...and facebook hasn't been the same since he left us That's how I knew things were serious, when he stopped posting on Facebook. Ugh I just remembered again that he's gone. So easy to fall back into thinking I just haven't talked to him for a bit. It's going to take a while for many of us to remember he is no longer with us... |
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Post by cobrajet25 on Jul 17, 2014 20:42:39 GMT -8
bad design actually, if you ask me. Even the H-Link end links for the -600x cases were a bad design, at least as executed by Seiko. Jonathan's were 100x better. There were three different versions of the end links for the -600x case, and they got progressively worse. The earliest version wasn't that bad at all. As to the 6139-6010 and bracelet, I'd say it's original. This bracelet is normally only seen on very early 6139s, no matter what the model. I'd say this watch dates to '69-'70, so that is a good sign. The condition of the watch in terms of originality and wear are consistent with the bracelet, and overall the watch looks pretty un-phuked with. The end links look loose, but they look like they fit the case. |
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Post by seikoholic on Jul 18, 2014 10:45:40 GMT -8
Even the H-Link end links for the -600x cases were a bad design, at least as executed by Seiko. Jonathan's were 100x better. There were three different versions of the end links for the -600x case, and they got progressively worse. The earliest version wasn't that bad at all. As to the 6139-6010 and bracelet, I'd say it's original. This bracelet is normally only seen on very early 6139s, no matter what the model. I'd say this watch dates to '69-'70, so that is a good sign. The condition of the watch in terms of originality and wear are consistent with the bracelet, and overall the watch looks pretty un-phuked with. The end links look loose, but they look like they fit the case.  100% on all counts. Watch is from August '69. |
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Post by Groundhog66 on Jul 18, 2014 11:38:49 GMT -8
I'd love to own that watch...
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Post by seikoholic on Jul 18, 2014 12:10:25 GMT -8
I'd love to own that watch... As you say "for the right price", then hell yes. The guy had it listed for a thousand dollars lol. I told him that price was way out of whack, but mentioned the rare early bracelet, and he went back and bumped the price to $1250.. lol. He got the watch for essentially nothing, in trade from the original owner who didn't care about it at all. He was a "if it ain't Swiss it ain't anything" person. |
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Post by timewatcher on Jul 18, 2014 15:50:45 GMT -8
That's how I knew things were serious, when he stopped posting on Facebook. Ugh I just remembered again that he's gone. So easy to fall back into thinking I just haven't talked to him for a bit. It's going to take a while for many of us to remember he is no longer with us... .I have not been able to get an answer from anyone but how long was he ill before he passed away? Was he also a heavy smoker and drinker? I know that sounds morbid but its not meant to be! What were his exact symptoms? |
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Post by Groundhog66 on Jul 18, 2014 17:41:09 GMT -8
It's going to take a while for many of us to remember he is no longer with us... .I have not been able to get an answer from anyone but how long was he ill before he passed away? Was he also a heavy smoker and drinker? I know that sounds morbid but its not meant to be! What were his exact symptoms? Not a conversation for the forum, but I understand your concern. |
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Post by seikoholic on Jul 18, 2014 19:28:07 GMT -8
Jonathan would not have wanted any of this discussed, it is no one's business. Only a few of us talked to him when he was sick, myself most of all, and none of those of us who actually know anything would dishonor Jonathan's memory by blabbing about this stuff to people who don't have any reason to know this stuff. Respect his privacy. This is the only time I will say this, or respond to any inquiries about Jonathan's private business.
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Post by ninja01 on Jul 18, 2014 21:05:06 GMT -8
Regarding the bracelet, all I can point out is the actual Seiko catalog materials I was able to gather from around the net & put onto the Dr. Seiko database: database page linkDon't see that type shown for the -601x model. But, I can't say I've found EVERY catalog from EVERY year from EVERY market around the world. UPDATE: I also have other material beside what is in that link (above), but don't see that bracelet type listed in any of those either. Again, I don't have a complete set of Seiko marketing material from those days... I also have a -6011 BUT a very unusual one as it has an early-JDM dial! It is on a strap though. See it completely here: link to 6139-6011A quick look:  PS: Also have a "normal" -601x with the blue (& non-JDM) dial. It is on a replacement bracelet, so no help there either. BUT - I have a 7017 with what appears to be that general type of bracelet (not exact match though?) you mention! Not sure if it's original to the watch though: link to 7017-6010 |
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Post by seikoholic on Jul 19, 2014 7:30:29 GMT -8
Regarding the bracelet, all I can point out is the actual Seiko catalog materials I was able to gather from around the net & put onto the Dr. Seiko database: database page linkDon't see that type shown for the -601x model. But, I can't say I've found EVERY catalog from EVERY year from EVERY market around the world. UPDATE: I also have other material beside what is in that link (above), but don't see that bracelet type listed in any of those either. Again, I don't have a complete set of Seiko marketing material from those days... I also have a -6011 BUT a very unusual one as it has an early-JDM dial! It is on a strap though. See it completely here: link to 6139-6011A quick look: PS: Also have a "normal" -601x with the blue (& non-JDM) dial. It is on a replacement bracelet, so no help there either. BUT - I have a 7017 with what appears to be that general type of bracelet (not exact match though?) you mention! Not sure if it's original to the watch though: link to 7017-6010I have a 6139-6000 with the chiclet bracelet, original and an ad has been found that shows the combination. They also came on the Doc Chronos, and I've seen ads for them. I had one of the Doc Chrono bracelets NOS and sold it to Adrian / Hal0eight down in Oz. That's a sweet speedtimer there. Love the factory matte handset. |
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