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Post by dad-the-diver on Jul 24, 2014 7:53:12 GMT -8
......will fit in a 6105 case please?
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Post by donciccio on Jul 24, 2014 8:00:23 GMT -8
6309, 6106, 6119 ... more too , but these are the only ones I can think of right now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 8:24:20 GMT -8
A few more drop in movts are 6349 auto 6319 auto 7548,7546,7545 and pulsar y513 quartz movements ....you'll need to source a 6309 dress watch stem part # 354601 it's a direct screw in to the stock 6105-811x crown If you're prepared to go full out custom ....I've personally stuffed a modern Seiko 4R36 movt into a 6105-8110 case. Complete with hacking and hand winding. You'll need to mod the case with a Rolex triple lock crown/tube set. I also needed to turn my own chapter ring to accommodate the stack height difference with the 4R36 vs the old 6105 Here's a pic....   Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by dad-the-diver on Jul 24, 2014 8:50:37 GMT -8
A few more drop in movts are 6349 auto 6319 auto 7548,7546,7545 and pulsar y513 quartz movements ....you'll need to source a 6309 dress watch stem part # 354601 it's a direct screw in to the stock 6105-811x crown If you're prepared to go full out custom ....I've personally stuffed a modern Seiko 4R36 movt into a 6105-8110 case. Complete with hacking and hand winding. You'll need to mod the case with a Rolex triple lock crown/tube set. I also needed to turn my own chapter ring to accommodate the stack height difference with the 4R36 vs the old 6105 Here's a pic.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by Groundhog66 on Jul 24, 2014 8:55:43 GMT -8
What do you have cooking, Jason?
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Post by dad-the-diver on Jul 24, 2014 9:21:23 GMT -8
6309, 6106, 6119 ... more too , but these are the only ones I can think of right now. Cool, thanks Chris  |
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Post by dad-the-diver on Jul 24, 2014 9:24:00 GMT -8
What do you have cooking, Jason? Nothing yet, but having Bacon & Chorizo with spicy West African rice later  |
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Post by seikoholic on Jul 24, 2014 14:48:55 GMT -8
A few more drop in movts are 6349 auto 6319 auto 7548,7546,7545 and pulsar y513 quartz movements ....you'll need to source a 6309 dress watch stem part # 354601 it's a direct screw in to the stock 6105-811x crown If you're prepared to go full out custom ....I've personally stuffed a modern Seiko 4R36 movt into a 6105-8110 case. Complete with hacking and hand winding. You'll need to mod the case with a Rolex triple lock crown/tube set. I also needed to turn my own chapter ring to accommodate the stack height difference with the 4R36 vs the old 6105 The internal architecture works otherwise though? I have the case, I have the new 4R movement. I had no idea that one could go into the other. |
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Post by donciccio on Jul 24, 2014 15:32:06 GMT -8
A few more drop in movts are 6349 auto 6319 auto 7548,7546,7545 and pulsar y513 quartz movements ....you'll need to source a 6309 dress watch stem part # 354601 it's a direct screw in to the stock 6105-811x crown If you're prepared to go full out custom ....I've personally stuffed a modern Seiko 4R36 movt into a 6105-8110 case. Complete with hacking and hand winding. You'll need to mod the case with a Rolex triple lock crown/tube set. I also needed to turn my own chapter ring to accommodate the stack height difference with the 4R36 vs the old 6105 Here's a pic.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Holy Shit Shawn! You are awesome!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 16:15:32 GMT -8
A few more drop in movts are 6349 auto 6319 auto 7548,7546,7545 and pulsar y513 quartz movements ....you'll need to source a 6309 dress watch stem part # 354601 it's a direct screw in to the stock 6105-811x crown If you're prepared to go full out custom ....I've personally stuffed a modern Seiko 4R36 movt into a 6105-8110 case. Complete with hacking and hand winding. You'll need to mod the case with a Rolex triple lock crown/tube set. I also needed to turn my own chapter ring to accommodate the stack height difference with the 4R36 vs the old 6105 The internal architecture works otherwise though? I have the case, I have the new 4R movement. I had no idea that one could go into the other. The modern 6R15, 7s26 and the most recent 4R35 / 36 movements are the same diameter as the older 61xx and 63xx movements. The differences come in the form of overall stack height. The modern movts are a tad shorter than the 6105 so there will be a space between the dial surface and the chapter ring. A new taller chapter ring needs to be machined to account for the height difference and to properly center the 4R movt within the case. The Rolex trip lock crown conversion allows for a 100% waterproof crown setup and the spring loaded crown is critical to being able to utilize the hand winding function of the 4R series movts.   |
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Post by donciccio on Jul 24, 2014 17:03:59 GMT -8
The internal architecture works otherwise though? I have the case, I have the new 4R movement. I had no idea that one could go into the other. The modern 6R15, 7s26 and the most recent 4R35 / 36 movements are the same diameter as the older 61xx and 63xx movements. The differences come in the form of overall stack height. The modern movts are a tad shorter than the 6105 so there will be a space between the dial surface and the chapter ring. A new taller chapter ring needs to be machined to account for the height difference and to properly center the 4R movt within the case. The Rolex trip lock crown conversion allows for a 100% waterproof crown setup and the spring loaded crown is critical to being able to utilize the hand winding function of the 4R series movts.  I'm still doing things with a pick and shovel. |
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Post by seikoholic on Jul 24, 2014 21:48:21 GMT -8
The internal architecture works otherwise though? I have the case, I have the new 4R movement. I had no idea that one could go into the other. The modern 6R15, 7s26 and the most recent 4R35 / 36 movements are the same diameter as the older 61xx and 63xx movements. The differences come in the form of overall stack height. The modern movts are a tad shorter than the 6105 so there will be a space between the dial surface and the chapter ring. A new taller chapter ring needs to be machined to account for the height difference and to properly center the 4R movt within the case. The Rolex trip lock crown conversion allows for a 100% waterproof crown setup and the spring loaded crown is critical to being able to utilize the hand winding function of the 4R series movts. But it still has to be no-date, right? Because the 4R crown is 3:45? What about that dial? New dial feet or is it fixed to the dial ring? |
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Post by cobrajet25 on Jul 24, 2014 23:14:45 GMT -8
6118 and 6308 should drop in as well, plus they will have a date that quicksets correctly.
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Post by mwbuss8 on Jul 25, 2014 2:01:29 GMT -8
The movements mentioned will fit, but those such as the 6106 with push in quick set aren't ideal. No one mentioned the 6117 yet... though you'd either need the correct dial or you'd need to modify one for the 24h wheel. The 6117B hacks, the A doesn't.
With mention of the 4r mod, I put a 4r35 in a 7002 case and used the 7002 date wheel which lines up correctly for the crown @4. From time to time it gets caught between teeth during quick set, and I need to run the hands around to advance it. I'm convinced it's an easy fix, I just haven't gotten around to pulling it apart. That'd allow you to keep the date though.
The other option is to check with Jake. Maybe he'd sell a typhoon dial with date @4. Then you'd just need the standard date wheel, as it aligns with the crown.
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Post by donciccio on Jul 25, 2014 3:55:10 GMT -8
... You'll need to mod the case with a Rolex triple lock crown/tube set.... Shawn, can you and do you do the trip lock on a 6309? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 4:38:42 GMT -8
... You'll need to mod the case with a Rolex triple lock crown/tube set.... Shawn, can you and do you do the trip lock on a 6309? Chris, yes I have done one trip lock conversion on a 6309 case....I'm not really dying to do another. The 6309 cases have a long-large recess around the crown tube. the main problem that exists in performing a trip lock conversion is the the Rolex crown tube length.....or lack of. ideally, you need to create a spacer that threads into the case tube recess, then you could tap the inner diameter of the spacer to accept the rolex tube....it's really twice the work, but the benefit really isn't there. In all honesty, the stock 6309 crown seal is a fairly robust setup and the huge cost associated with converting the 6309 case over to a triple lock crown is kinda a major put-off for most WIS. I charge $200 for a trip-lock conversion on 6105 cases and more than $100 of that cost is due to the fact that I only use genuine Rolex parts. The 6309 cases are plentiful as compared to a 6105 so if you have a bad one, it makes more sense to chunk it in the trash and purchase a donor case as opposed to paying me $200 for a conversion. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 4:44:30 GMT -8
Also......as metioned by another member. The 6117 GMT movements are a direct drop in to the 6105 series cases. I've done a handfull of these conversions of the years, here's one of mine   |
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Post by dad-the-diver on Jul 25, 2014 7:23:54 GMT -8
Just LOVE the look of that 6105 case! As an aside, whats the best donor watch for a project like this? I.E from the point of view of using the most parts as to "swop across" to the 6105 case?
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Post by seikoholic on Jul 25, 2014 7:31:34 GMT -8
... You'll need to mod the case with a Rolex triple lock crown/tube set.... Shawn, can you and do you do the trip lock on a 6309? Oh god please say yes. I have a 6309 case with a destroyed crown tube... |
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