martog
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Post by martog on Oct 18, 2014 18:32:09 GMT -8
For years I have looked at and owned a couple of 6138-0011 Seiko Crono;s but what is the difference between this model and the 6138-0017 as far as I can see they look Identical is it a country designation??.
Cheers Mark
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Adrian-VTA
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Post by Adrian-VTA on Oct 18, 2014 18:53:37 GMT -8
No difference, I think it just is a country/revision thing. For years I have looked at and owned a couple of 6138-0011 Seiko Crono;s but what is the difference between this model and the 6138-0017 as far as I can see they look Identical is it a country designation??. Cheers Mark
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Post by yorkiesknob on Oct 18, 2014 18:59:18 GMT -8
Mark , from WUS "The series consists of models 6138-0010, 6138-0011 and 6138-0017.
The 0010 is the Speedtimer version, available in Japan, while the 0011 and 0017 were produced for the international market. I think the differences between these two are strictly cosmetic; the 0011 has a red sweep hand, lighter orange checkerboarding on the sub dial, and no mention of water-resistance on the dial, whereas the 0017 has a yellow sweep, darker checkering and is marked 70m water-resistant."
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martog
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Post by martog on Oct 18, 2014 19:19:23 GMT -8
Ha Finally thanks guys appreciate the info.
Mark.
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Post by cobrajet25 on Oct 18, 2014 22:07:52 GMT -8
Mark , from WUS "The series consists of models 6138-0010, 6138-0011 and 6138-0017. The 0010 is the Speedtimer version, available in Japan, while the 0011 and 0017 were produced for the international market. I think the differences between these two are strictly cosmetic; the 0011 has a red sweep hand, lighter orange checkerboarding on the sub dial, and no mention of water-resistance on the dial, whereas the 0017 has a yellow sweep, darker checkering and is marked 70m water-resistant." This is all wrong. The caseback numbers have little to do with dials and nothing to do with hand colors on these, just like they don't have anything to do with either on any other vintage Seiko model. There are four models, not three. The 6138-0010, 6138-0011, 6138-0017, and 6138-0019. The -0010 and -0019, like the 6139-6000 and 6139-6009, seem to have been discontinued rather quickly. The 6138-0011 seems to appear alongside them, and the 6138-0017 appears a bit later (but not much). The -0011 and -0017 were around until the model was discontinued in 1979. Speed-Timers can be -0010 or -0011. I don't recall having seen a -0017 Speed-Timer, and I am sure I have not seen a -0019 Speed-Timer, but that isn't to say they don't exist. Water resistance indication on the dial is a function of when the watch was made, not which case number it has. Watches from 1970 to late 1971 or early 1972 have it, later watches don't. The colored "flags" on the subdials usually match the sweep hand, but not always. I have heard people say they have 100% original watches where they don't match, but they normally do. The caseback numbers seem to relate only to which geographical area these were sold in new. Certain model number can be Speed-Timers, other model numbers are never Speed-Timers. Same ol' same ol' from Seiko!
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Post by yorkiesknob on Oct 19, 2014 0:17:47 GMT -8
Sounds fair enough to me Cobrajet. Thanks for the update.
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