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Post by Groundhog66 on Oct 27, 2014 9:37:38 GMT -8
Can anyone tell me, if this is the original bracelet for this model (6119-7160)? It appears to be a bit narroy at the lugs, but it looks pretty good IMO.  |
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Post by ninja01 on Oct 27, 2014 9:48:50 GMT -8
I can't say for sure if these were used at some point, but it's not the one shown in a catalog scan I have of what appears to be the same model, but with the gold dial. The one in that catalog looks something like an Olongapo bracelet. I will check to see if I have that shot in a server someplace (or if it is online somewhere else) and come back later if I find it & paste it into a further response. Will also check to see if I have any other shots (esp. black dial like yours) that would show original bracelets of other kinds.
UPDATE: OK, no luck finding the catalog shot in a photo server. Also, I checked around my own private database & I did NOT see your bracelet used on any of the 61 SPORT WP watches pictured in the '69 & '70 catalogs & sales flyers I have there. I am not an expert in that type of watch & I certainly don't have every catalog ever made ... so, someone else may indeed know if this was a correct original type, but I cannot verify that for you, sorry!
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Post by vinylgreek on Oct 27, 2014 9:53:16 GMT -8
I also find those bracelets to be attractive but don't believe it to be original to the Sushi Roll. The one that passed through my collection actually had a Razor bracelet but I'm not sure that was original to the watch either.
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Post by seikoholic on Oct 27, 2014 10:02:13 GMT -8
I'm not up on what these were supposed to have new, but I thought it was something like this. Catalog shot anyone?
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Post by saul on Oct 27, 2014 14:32:51 GMT -8
I'm not up on what these were supposed to have new, but I thought it was something like this. Catalog shot anyone? Who the hell ever really knows? All this catalog shot does is establish that on any given day this watch came on this bracelet. I think they planned things this way knowing it would drive a bunch of watch nerds nuts 40 years later.  |
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Post by seikoholic on Oct 27, 2014 15:07:56 GMT -8
I'm not up on what these were supposed to have new, but I thought it was something like this. Catalog shot anyone? Who the hell ever really knows? All this catalog shot does is establish that on any given day this watch came on this bracelet. I think they planned things this way knowing it would drive a bunch of watch nerds nuts 40 years later. I like your quote about Seiko using a random number generator for their variations. |
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Post by Groundhog66 on Oct 27, 2014 15:13:15 GMT -8
Not a big fan of the razor type bracelets, hopefully there is a better looking option.
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Post by vinylgreek on Oct 27, 2014 17:01:55 GMT -8
Not a big fan of the razor type bracelets, hopefully there is a better looking option. I have my 6106-7107 on a 19mm solid link oyster style currently. Same case if I'm not mistaken.  PA120225 by vinylgreek, on Flickr I've also had it on this 20mm two tone leather strap.  P3090067 by vinylgreek, on Flickr Just a couple of ideas for you. I had it on this one too.  PA120133 by vinylgreek, on Flickr |
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Post by ninja01 on Oct 27, 2014 21:25:27 GMT -8
Who the hell ever really knows? All this catalog shot does is establish that on any given day this watch came on this bracelet. I think they planned things this way knowing it would drive a bunch of watch nerds nuts 40 years later. OK, that's the pic I was trying to find!! You are right about the catalog comment. I've often said, in these situations, that we cannot categorically "prove" that something is NOT factory original until we have every single Seiko catalog & sales flyer ever made (including 3rd party ones!!) in every year of production of the model in question. It is indeed very hard to determine "legitimate" watch & bracelet combinations. Apparently it is even worse for collectors of truly vintage Seiko (like, early post-WWII and early 20th Century). In those cases, I've heard that the retailers often sold a watch by allowing a customer to chose movement, dial, hand, and case options - in essence making a "customized" watch there @ the store... kind of like how we do aftermarket Mods!! Apparently it is very difficult for collectors of the early Seikos to even determine what ARE legitimate cases. I'll have to go look up that info from an old article in another forum (regarding the early stuff) to see exactly what the issue was, but I think I've summarized it pretty correctly. |
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