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Post by Groundhog66 on Oct 28, 2014 13:21:46 GMT -8
Just my opinion, but THIS one is not worth $200+. The dial & hands are thrashed, more than likely gonna need a service. Examples much nicer than this, sell for a similar price quite often.  |
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Post by seikoholic on Oct 28, 2014 13:42:53 GMT -8
I'm not surprised at all. It's an original piece. Case is actually pretty decent. Dial lume appears to be quite nice, and the dial text is still faintly orange. Hands are sort of an issue but they're not destroyed. I've seen destroyed, we all have. These aren't mint at all, but I wouldn't call them destroyed. And it's a nice '79 Suwa. In parts alone it's worth the selling price. IMO.  |
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Post by Groundhog66 on Oct 28, 2014 13:44:47 GMT -8
I'm not surprised at all. It's an original piece. Case is actually pretty decent. Dial lume appears to be quite nice, and the dial text is still faintly orange. Hands are sort of an issue but they're not destroyed. I've seen destroyed, we all have. These aren't mint at all, but I wouldn't call them destroyed. And it's a nice '79 Suwa. In parts alone it's worth the selling price. IMO. Hopefully all that crud comes off the dial...You have the benefit, of looking at it a bit differently than most of us. You wouldn't have to pay another $150, to get it running properly. |
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Post by timewatcher on Oct 28, 2014 13:57:35 GMT -8
The 6309-7049 is on my "wish list" but at the going rate for them it may be awhile. I think all the talk about them drives the prices up!? I have a very decent 6309-7040 that I did a MOD on and am seriously thinking of changing it back! Trouble is I need an OEM dial, bezel insert and hands! It has a 6105-8110 bezel on it now and that I wouldnt change.  |
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Post by sdoocms on Oct 28, 2014 14:03:22 GMT -8
Are the white spots damage to the dial or the crystal? If it's the dial I would not consider it.
I just answered my own question. I would not buy that but I have one similar that I might list one of these days.
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Post by Groundhog66 on Oct 28, 2014 14:07:31 GMT -8
Are the white spots damage to the dial or the crystal? If it's the dial I would not consider it. I just answered my own question. I would bot buy that but I have one similar that I might list one of these days. Yeah, all those spots are on the dial. |
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Post by seikoholic on Oct 28, 2014 14:10:26 GMT -8
I'm not surprised at all. It's an original piece. Case is actually pretty decent. Dial lume appears to be quite nice, and the dial text is still faintly orange. Hands are sort of an issue but they're not destroyed. I've seen destroyed, we all have. These aren't mint at all, but I wouldn't call them destroyed. And it's a nice '79 Suwa. In parts alone it's worth the selling price. IMO. Hopefully all that crud comes off the dial...You have the benefit, of looking at it a bit differently than most of us. You wouldn't have to pay another $150, to get it running properly. If that crap is on the dial, then it's a harder sell for sure. It looked to me like it was pitting in the crystal, but if those white spots are on the dial, it's definitely a much larger problem. However, I've gotten that kind of thing off before, quickly. But who knows, and yes for someone who would have to pay someone else to make it better, it's not a good starting point. |
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Post by philsinclair on Oct 28, 2014 16:37:17 GMT -8
Hi. What is an OEM dial worth? Cheers Phil
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Post by Adrian-VTA on Oct 28, 2014 16:46:40 GMT -8
What I do with ones like this is study if the spots throw a shadow. If there's a shadow, it's all crystal. Hopefully all that crud comes off the dial...You have the benefit, of looking at it a bit differently than most of us. You wouldn't have to pay another $150, to get it running properly. If that crap is on the dial, then it's a harder sell for sure. It looked to me like it was pitting in the crystal, but if those white spots are on the dial, it's definitely a much larger problem. However, I've gotten that kind of thing off before, quickly. But who knows, and yes for someone who would have to pay someone else to make it better, it's not a good starting point. |
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Post by seikoholic on Oct 28, 2014 17:06:18 GMT -8
What I do with ones like this is study if the spots throw a shadow. If there's a shadow, it's all crystal. If that crap is on the dial, then it's a harder sell for sure. It looked to me like it was pitting in the crystal, but if those white spots are on the dial, it's definitely a much larger problem. However, I've gotten that kind of thing off before, quickly. But who knows, and yes for someone who would have to pay someone else to make it better, it's not a good starting point. I've had dials come through with the white salty spots on them from disintegrating hand lume. A incredibly short dip in the big ultrasonic, like a half a second MAX using warm distilled water, removed the salt stains as though by magic. I'm not one to ever recommend a dial in the ultrasonic ever but in very special and specific circumstances it has really done wonders. |
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Post by Adrian-VTA on Oct 28, 2014 17:20:00 GMT -8
I've saved a few dials like that before. I know it's not best practice, but if it comes down to that or the bin, i'll run with it. What I do with ones like this is study if the spots throw a shadow. If there's a shadow, it's all crystal. I've had dials come through with the white salty spots on them from disintegrating hand lume. A incredibly short dip in the big ultrasonic, like a half a second MAX using warm distilled water, removed the salt stains as though by magic. I'm not one to ever recommend a dial in the ultrasonic ever but in very special and specific circumstances it has really done wonders. |
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Post by seikoholic on Oct 28, 2014 17:22:37 GMT -8
I've saved a few dials like that before. I know it's not best practice, but if it comes down to that or the bin, i'll run with it. I've had dials come through with the white salty spots on them from disintegrating hand lume. A incredibly short dip in the big ultrasonic, like a half a second MAX using warm distilled water, removed the salt stains as though by magic. I'm not one to ever recommend a dial in the ultrasonic ever but in very special and specific circumstances it has really done wonders. It does work. The extremely limited time in the bath is key, and even there I've had dials with weakened printing suffer as a result, just a bit. But a tiny dip, IN/OUT, as fast as you can say that, will put many things right. Then a quick gentle blow-off with canned air, not blasting, to drive the water away. I do not do it very often at all, but I have achieved some great saves that way. |
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Post by carlows on Oct 28, 2014 18:22:54 GMT -8
Some people like all original parts and even wear or damage on them for some reason. The sale price is just an agreement between a seller and a buyer. If no one buys the watch then the watch is not worth anything. But if someone wants to pay $1000 for a beat up, rusty, crusty, not working watch because of whatever, then the watch it's worth that much to the buyer and to the seller. I just saw a Seiko 5 with a Dagaz pilot dial being sold on the WUS sales forum for $450... Ok it also has a leather strap, but still...  |
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