Are you there Sweephand?

[yorkiesknob]

What can you inform me please in regards to this vintage Citizen 63-4239.  Picked up for less than lunch money. Not much info on the net.
The hands and indices aren't as dark as in the photo, quite bright in fact. Hand wind, parawater, engrave date suggests early 70s. Not sure about the bracelet, it seems to be in too good of condtion. However the back of the endlinks seem to be moulded around the caseback for a snug fit.
There is a blue one for sale on the bay which looks kinda neat. I think a new crystal will do this watch a treat. Don't mind the engraving on the back gives it a bit of character for an old watch.

PS  When did Citizen stop using the Parawater wording?

Thanks in advance  Yorkie

[ninja01]

Not Sweephand, but for dating you have the serial# on the case-back and he has his Movement Table + Production Dating document @

homepage.ntlworld.com/stephen.netherwood/VintageCitizenMovementTablev6.0Secure.pdf

See last page (13) for instructions on dating your watch.

There is also this article in his blog:

sweep-hand.org/vintage-citizen-case-backs/

and it says, "The ‘Parawater’ designation means that the watch was not produced later than about 1973."

I find the dial logo interesting, could it be Indian production (HMT)??

You could try searching his site for that logo!!
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Ooh, hang on, just went to his "Hand Winders" article and see a picture that looks like it has your logo (or very similar at 12) in it!!

sweep-hand.org/the-hand-winders/

Here's the shot:

It is identified as a model of New Master.

[yorkiesknob]

Thanks Ninja, For the super quick response. Better get some reading done, Will comment later  Cheers Yorkie
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[sweephand]

Hi Yorkiesnob,

Ninja01 has covered most things  - I can add that the movement in this one is the 'Homer' hand winder that was first produced in 1960. This was designated as the '02' calibre by Citizen, and you can see that this is indicated in the case number (4-02....). The 02 movement was used in a number of models including the Newmasters. Yours was produced in February 1971 (can't be 1961 with this type of back and dial design). As ninja says Parawater was used up to around 1973, so it can't be later than this either. 

I think that the bracelet is original - it is correct for a 1971 watch, and as you say the end links seem to fit well. 

Stephen

[yorkiesknob]

Thanks Stephen, good knowledge there. Well pleased about the bracelet being correct . Do you have reference for the crystal size and possible source.

Thanks again Yorkie

[sweephand]

Nov 5, 2014 14:56:55 GMT -8 yorkiesknob said:

Thanks Stephen, good knowledge there. Well pleased about the bracelet being correct . Do you have reference for the crystal size and possible source.

Thanks again Yorkie

I've found 2 part numbers for the crystal for this model - 54-0391 & 54-05751. Jules Borel list an alternative crystal, and quote a price so it looks like it's available: cgi.julesborel.com/cgi-bin/matcgi2?ref=CIT_CS%5E4-020642

I don't have the size I'm afraid.

Stephen

[yorkiesknob]

Nov 5, 2014 15:05:19 GMT -8 sweephand said:

Nov 5, 2014 14:56:55 GMT -8 yorkiesknob said:

Thanks Stephen, good knowledge there. Well pleased about the bracelet being correct . Do you have reference for the crystal size and possible source.

Thanks again Yorkie

I've found 2 part numbers for the crystal for this model - 54-0391 & 54-05751. Jules Borel list an alternative crystal, and quote a price so it looks like it's available: cgi.julesborel.com/cgi-bin/matcgi2?ref=CIT_CS%5E4-020642

I don't have the size I'm afraid.

Stephen

Thanks Stephen