Two Vintage finds very happy>

[martog]

I got these 2 at a great price and the condition of them is second to none and moving on with the theme of my Citizen "Speedy", I really have a soft spot for the 8110A range of Auto chrono's. 

Here are some sellers pictures inbound to me.





Regards
Mark

[sdoocms]

Congrats on two great finds!

[SeikoPsycho]

Nice! Love the color of that second one!

[69ChevelleSS]

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[trandy]

Both look great....not sure which one I like better....but I'm leaning towards the second one....love the color scheme.

[solex]

The black dialed chrono, looks all business, really like it

[russtmurray]

Outstanding Citizens!

[sweephand]

Nice pieces Mark    

The 67-9071's are hard to find especially in good condition. They also came with a green dial:

Stephen

[zeeman]

Nice find!

[ninja01]

Nice shape on both of those from the pics!! Congrats!!

I too have one of the squarish models:


It must be a scanner shot as the second hand is really NOT bent & jagged like the photo shows.

Got it many years ago from Singapore (but was offered on eBay US). I think after shipping & other expenses I paid about US$70 in either 2001 or 2002 (would have to hunt thru the notes to be sure though).

I got more nice ones (different models) from 2 Singapore based sellers (NOT on eBay) in early 2000s:

1. "Spaceman" as the seller dubbed it:



2. A "Military look" or "stealth" 8100, even came on the original strap!!


3. From another seller in Singapore, a Frankened 8100

He thought it was "original" like this but I pointed out to him the double tach scale - one on dial, the other on the exterior bezel. Told him the bezel came from the "Spaceman" style & got this one for a hefty discount. It really should have a rather plain conical bezel on it.

Other than the wrong bezel, it is in quite nice shape. I actually like the look better with the wrong bezel & I think that bezel is rarer than the "correct" one as well!!


4. From an eBay seller in Israel. This was one of his shots of it, the black "Speedy". Looked like crap. I got it rather cheap & in person it's quite nice!


Was a reasonable price even after funds transfer fees & shipping.

One very unusual feature ... it follows Middle Eastern custom for day/date rollover. Instead of midnight, the date/day rolls over for sunset (well, an average sunset time of 6PM anyway). Not sure if Citizen did it that way @ factory, or if some local watchmaker customized it for the local custom.

From the back (seller's lousy shot again):


Never did get a "Volcano" (as I call the 8110 you show 1st) ... they were among the most common types available when I was collecting them in 2001 & 2002 time-frame, so I went with other, harder-to-find kinds instead!

Speaking of which, this is what I mean ... this is my 1 other Citizen Chronograph, or should I say, "Chronostop" as it is seconds-only:



This one was from US eBay but from a seller in the UK. It is NOT automatic as you can see! It is a calibre 5700 and it is in the "Rally Custom" case style!! The weak point of these is the tach bezel, note the wear around the outer edge of the bezel. Unlike the Seiko 6138s & 701x's with these external tach bezels, Citizen didn't put a protective metal "band" there, so the edge wears quite badly. The "Speedy" though is made more like the Seikos, it seems to have an insert & thus is protected by a metal band or edge surrounding the actual tach track.

But, enjoy your two!! I expect you'll be adding to the collection as well???!!!!

[martog]

Nov 5, 2014 16:30:24 GMT -8 namvet65 said:

   Hi Mark,  look nice mate, have to catch up, heard you had a score from Paul, well done

george

Hey George

Nice to hear from you yep I got the Auto Zilla from Paul and looking forward to catching up.

Mark

[martog]

Nov 5, 2014 15:12:34 GMT -8 ninja01 said:

Nice shape on both of those from the pics!! Congrats!!

I too have one of the squarish models:


It must be a scanner shot as the second hand is really NOT bent & jagged like the photo shows.

Got it many years ago from Singapore (but was offered on eBay US). I think after shipping & other expenses I paid about US$70 in either 2001 or 2002 (would have to hunt thru the notes to be sure though).

I got more nice ones (different models) from 2 Singapore based sellers (NOT on eBay) in early 2000s:

1. "Spaceman" as the seller dubbed it:



2. A "Military look" or "stealth" 8100, even came on the original strap!!


3. From another seller in Singapore, a Frankened 8100

He thought it was "original" like this but I pointed out to him the double tach scale - one on dial, the other on the exterior bezel. Told him the bezel came from the "Spaceman" style & got this one for a hefty discount. It really should have a rather plain conical bezel on it.

Other than the wrong bezel, it is in quite nice shape. I actually like the look better with the wrong bezel & I think that bezel is rarer than the "correct" one as well!!


4. From an eBay seller in Israel. This was one of his shots of it, the black "Speedy". Looked like crap. I got it rather cheap & in person it's quite nice!


Was a reasonable price even after funds transfer fees & shipping.

One very unusual feature ... it follows Middle Eastern custom for day/date rollover. Instead of midnight, the date/day rolls over for sunset (well, an average sunset time of 6PM anyway). Not sure if Citizen did it that way @ factory, or if some local watchmaker customized it for the local custom.

From the back (seller's lousy shot again):


Never did get a "Volcano" (as I call the 8110 you show 1st) ... they were among the most common types available when I was collecting them in 2001 & 2002 time-frame, so I went with other, harder-to-find kinds instead!

Speaking of which, this is what I mean ... this is my 1 other Citizen Chronograph, or should I say, "Chronostop" as it is seconds-only:



This one was from US eBay but from a seller in the UK. It is NOT automatic as you can see! It is a calibre 5700 and it is in the "Rally Custom" case style!! The weak point of these is the tach bezel, note the wear around the outer edge of the bezel. Unlike the Seiko 6138s & 701x's with these external tach bezels, Citizen didn't put a protective metal "band" there, so the edge wears quite badly. The "Speedy" though is made more like the Seikos, it seems to have an insert & thus is protected by a metal band or edge surrounding the actual tach track.

But, enjoy your two!! I expect you'll be adding to the collection as well???!!!!

Wow what a ripper group yes I want to add to my group down the track but they are hard to come by in good condition.

Mark

[Adrian-VTA]

Nice finds Mark! You'll need to tell me your secret!

They're two of the best I've ever seen.

[ninja01]

Nov 5, 2014 23:06:30 GMT -8 martog said:

Nov 5, 2014 15:12:34 GMT -8 ninja01 said:

I too have one of the squarish models:


1. "Spaceman" as the seller dubbed it:



2. A "Military look" or "stealth" 8100, even came on the original strap!!


3. From another seller in Singapore, a Frankened 8100



4.  black "Speedy".


5. Calibre 5700:

...
But, enjoy your two!! I expect you'll be adding to the collection as well???!!!!

Wow what a ripper group yes I want to add to my group down the track but they are hard to come by in good condition.

Mark

Well, don't forget I was collecting these in the 2001 & 2002 time-frame. A lot easier to find nice ones then. Interestingly, the black/stealth 8100 and the Spaceman 8110 + the Franken 8100 were not quite "jumped on" in the forum sales boards. They went several rounds of sales listing, in some cases, until I finally thought the prices reasonable & made deals on them. With many of their Seiko counterparts in those days, that strategy would likely NOT have worked ... Seiko chronos were much more popular then & I guess the demand for Citizen was rather (or relatively) small/soft.

1. Stealth 8100 in Jun 2002 was US$95 including intl. shipping. Came with original strap + a new one.
2. Rally Custom 5700 in July 2002 was US$145 including shipping.
3. Franken 8100 (with "Spaceman" bezel instead of correct), in about Sep. 2002 was US$95 including shipping. Seller originally wanted US$150 + $8 shipping. It included a new strap with deployant type clasp.
4. 8110 "Spaceman" in late 2002 (Nov?) was US$120 shipped.
5. The square/cushion case 8110 with "Art Deco" bezel was US$59 (auction close) in mid (late Jun or early July) 2001, but when various charges like shipping were added, the total was US$70.18. It was offered on US Ebay by a seller from Singapore (Time Antiques or Heirloom Gallery possibly).
6. The 8110 "Black Speedy" {4-901207TA as I have it recorded in my notes} was on eBay from a seller in Israel in April or May 2001. It came to me for US$115.94 with shipping and money transmittal fees included in that.

I do have a Bullhead Citizen 8110 with gold dial I got from an eBay seller, but privately (not a side-deal of an auction, but one he had outside of the system). That was my 1st Citizen chrono, from March 2001 & I have that recorded as US$125 (total). It was the best of 4 he had at the time (he said) but I think it has an incorrect winding crown and the thick black dial markers look like they were hand "re-painted" (it's a thick black material that stands up from the surface on which it is laid, so not sure it's "paint" in the true sense) & a bit "wavy" up close, not machine perfect straight. So, not the best example of the "breed". It did come with a nice new/unused Citizen signed bracelet as well. But, it was among my 1st Japanese (and certainly 1st Citizen) purchases. I learned more along the way in terms of evaluating these items for sale!!

[jim1963]

Two beauts there Mark

[pollythecat]

Nice pair Mark, they are the business.   I had a challenge timer for a brief period and must get another Citi Chrono one day, some of the Citizens have a character that's unique to the brand and are well worth tracking down.