Do you think this is a "re-dial"? It looks hand done to me.

[Thomas]

Hello gang,


Just perusing the auction sites and saw this King Seiko 4402-8000 for sale by "tttgroup" (item 331362487522). I like the 4402 movment, but the dial doesn't look right to me, the text looks hand lettered.

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I also looked around on the web and could not find another example of that particualr dial text either, with the Suwa mark below the words.


Here is a good shot I found of what I think the dial text should look like:

So what is your opinion, original dial or fake?


- Thomas

[Thomas]

Hmmm...


Suddenly the auction was "ended by the seller because the item is no longer available."


What does that usually mean?





- Thomas

[saul]

Nov 9, 2014 6:52:25 GMT -8 Thomas said:

Hmmm...


Suddenly the auction was "ended by the seller because the item is no longer available."


What does that usually mean?





- Thomas

All roads lead somewhere that smells off.

[ninja01]

To answer your primary question, yeah, looks like a re-dial to me. Check out the text on the "DIASHOCK" line - doesn't quite look right to me.

The dial codes look quite "wonky" to me as well!! Not the format you'd expect to see!!

AND: the Suwa mark Well, who actually made the 1st Generation and the 44 calibres of KS?? My notes indicate it wasn't Suwa!!

As far as "fake" ... well, a re-dial isn't necessarily a "fake", but in this case I'd say it was NOT done to original factory "standards"!!

Bid accordingly!!