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Post by timewatcher on Jan 7, 2015 6:23:06 GMT -8
I am not convinced this so called AM dial is really AM but is actually Original. I know it definitely lacks the trademark beveled window but according to some experts here the lack of the bevel doesnt mean 100% positively that its AM Anyone care to chime in please and thank you!  |
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Post by Groundhog66 on Jan 7, 2015 6:47:20 GMT -8
It is absolutely AM, the text along the bottom is another indicator.
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Post by timewatcher on Jan 7, 2015 6:52:39 GMT -8
Thanks........I will take your word for it but the text on my OEM dial is exactly the same.  |
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Post by Groundhog66 on Jan 7, 2015 6:55:17 GMT -8
The text on the AM dial sits higher, it should sit well below the indices.
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Post by scubarob99 on Jan 7, 2015 8:44:30 GMT -8
If you take a loupe or a magnifying glass, just take a side by side comparison with your original...the quality of the print (Seiko logo alone)
will leave you with 0 doubt of what a factory dial should look like.
and besides, even if it's a really good fake ,the dial text placement is a dead giveaway (like Tim mentioned earlier)
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Post by igniferroque on Jan 7, 2015 8:53:46 GMT -8
Counterfeit. The logo is wrong. The indexes are wrong. The whole thing is wrong.
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Post by longbike on Jan 7, 2015 9:17:18 GMT -8
The top Logo ..... " Seiko " , should not be looking like (Florescent Glowing ) at all too Rene. And it is not of a wide size, but .. (it is thin) in size. I have couple like this and they really show that they are not printed to be like original. They shine to much in the light.
As scubarob99 mentioned, looking at it in a slight angle will show its identity real clear. Also Tim stated another major point to it as to be right on it. But let it go for now till later on and you will score a original. It is just a matter on time and patience. You have it now so enjoy it for a while, it looks great.  JMO |
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Post by feca67 on Jan 7, 2015 10:44:26 GMT -8
AFAIK the only dials with little or no bevel are the Hong Kong ones
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Post by scubarob99 on Jan 7, 2015 11:44:10 GMT -8
AFAIK the only dials with little or no bevel are the Hong Kong ones I think there's always a bevel...it might be slight, but it's there, even on Hong Kong dials Rob |
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Post by longbike on Jan 8, 2015 0:20:57 GMT -8
AFAIK the only dials with little or no bevel are the Hong Kong ones That is correct Sir, feca67, you are correct because when looked real good then it can be seen. I have .... ( 4 ) ... 7049's and there is a bevel on Two (2) of them.
But on the ones without the ... " Cased in Hong Kong " completely across the bottom the other Two (2) they have very slight smaller hard to see bevels on them. I email Seiko Japan about these two and they told me there are .... Manufactured Model Dials .... without " Hong Kong 6309-7049 ", like these Two.
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Post by longbike on Jan 8, 2015 0:40:52 GMT -8
Have to see the experts for that advice to make sure.
I have compared my ... A/M dials with two that I have that are ...Originals. Both are same, but the way to can tell the ..." A/M " ones, you have too look at the ......... " Hour Markers " real good also. And yours has a ...... " SEIKO SWORD LOGO " that is too wide and fuzzy and a ..... " Dead Give away ".
The application of the Marker base is very shiny on the A/M Dial base to the dial itself and the Original is not. Then the Original is not shiny on the lume ...... but " the A/M one is ". But if re-lumed it becomes shiny, but with age it goes away. In your picture the " LOGO " on top is shinny also. The A/M forged ones have not perfected the Dial printing like Seiko has theirs. ________________________________________________________ NOTE: On Dial backs there has to be a code number for the originals. The ...A/M 's don't and I have not seen one with any codes yet.
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Post by cobrajet25 on Jan 8, 2015 2:12:33 GMT -8
I remember when the first AM 6309 dials came onto the market. These early repro ones had the words "Water" and "Resist" in a yellowy-orange color instead of the factory red. It was so common for this text to fade on original dials, particularly in tropical climes, that the fakers simply didn't know any better!  Pretty sure that one is AM. The way I would tell with the early repro dials is the "SEIKO" text and the "150m" text were the same color. On originals, the "SEIKO" text is white, the "150m" text is silver. |
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