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Post by Groundhog66 on May 30, 2015 7:40:03 GMT -8
Ouch!!!.. I have recently just purchased a 6119 6400 of him and waiting for it to arrive. I know it is not 100% original but I took the plunge anyway. Fingers crossed I have not been stung, but for what I paid I don't think I am going to loose too much if I have.Checking on other forums today it has been a bit of a mixed bag of what you get, some good some bad, just hope mines good. Hey if you know exactly what you're buying then there shouldn't be an issue. Here's my take on this never ending topic - On one hand I get why purists hate/dislike this guy - his listings say "original" but the word can be interpreted many number of ways. Sometimes his watches have AM parts and that's not fully disclosed unless asked or maybe not at all. On the other hand, I think people should be 'informed' by guys like us AND THEN be left to choose. I do not subscribe to the idea of pushing ideals to others (i.e. a watch should be pure all original as it came from the factory). Others should be left to choose for themselves whether or not to buy a cobbled mint watch that may (or may not) make them happy. This choice should be their own. I say this because I more or less come from both camps. I am a car enthusiast who takes pride in restoring a late 60's Volkswagen as well as modifying the hell out of a 90's Mitsubishi into a fire breathing weekend racer. Both sides of the coin are okay in my opinion and though some people dislike the watch and car analogy, to most watch AND car enthusiasts it makes perfect sense. Live and let live. I certainly agree with your sentiments, but would like to add this.....When most of us buy a watch, we are "hoping" that it will be wearable right away. Due to the fact that a vast majority in the hobby, are not capable of servicing. When you buy from a seller that recklessly cobbles them together (not speaking of anyone in particular), you can count on shelling out another $100-$200, to get it where it needs to be. Not to mention, sometimes sending it away for far too many months for said service. If you are one of the lucky ones, those who have the talent & expertise, there is far less to worry about IMO.
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Post by groundhogman on May 30, 2015 9:32:58 GMT -8
Hey if you know exactly what you're buying then there shouldn't be an issue. Here's my take on this never ending topic - On one hand I get why purists hate/dislike this guy - his listings say "original" but the word can be interpreted many number of ways. Sometimes his watches have AM parts and that's not fully disclosed unless asked or maybe not at all. On the other hand, I think people should be 'informed' by guys like us AND THEN be left to choose. I do not subscribe to the idea of pushing ideals to others (i.e. a watch should be pure all original as it came from the factory). Others should be left to choose for themselves whether or not to buy a cobbled mint watch that may (or may not) make them happy. This choice should be their own. I say this because I more or less come from both camps. I am a car enthusiast who takes pride in restoring a late 60's Volkswagen as well as modifying the hell out of a 90's Mitsubishi into a fire breathing weekend racer. Both sides of the coin are okay in my opinion and though some people dislike the watch and car analogy, to most watch AND car enthusiasts it makes perfect sense. Live and let live. I certainly agree with your sentiments, but would like to add this.....When most of us buy a watch, we are "hoping" that it will be wearable right away. Due to the fact that a vast majority in the hobby, are not capable of servicing. When you buy from a seller that recklessly cobbles them together (not speaking of anyone in particular), you can count on shelling out another $100-$200, to get it where it needs to be. Not to mention, sometimes sending it away for far too many months for said service. If you are one of the lucky ones, those who have the talent & expertise, there is far less to worry about IMO. It is not only people like sophon that try and do rip laymen off. About a year ago I sent a watch to be refurbished by someone I thought would be trustworthy to do a good job.I did not haggle ,paid promptly and when returned did not use but put in my collection.A few weeks ago I took it out to give it a wind and check the functions. Unfortunately the watch did not perform as it should so instead of going back to who supposedly refurbished it I sent it to Stefan who yesterday gave me some bad news. The watch has many issues ,basically untouched . I have learned the hard way, but we learn by our mistakes .
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