6138-0030 Blue....Hour and Minute hands Wrong hands??

[sundog]

The hands on the watch below.  Not only do they look too new, but aren't these one for.....say a 6138-0020 or a 6138-0040?

Or did the Japan models possibly use these wider hands?

[SeikoPsycho]

Those hands are not original to a 6138-0030. They appear to be aftermarket as are the sub register hands and possibly the dial.

[jringo8769]

well it does not look correct..hey ask Cockroach...he has a NOS one and there is pics of it on here too...those are beautiful watches but parts are very very very hard to find...

[doomguy10011]

If I'm not mistaken, this is from Yahoo Japan. I've seen watches from this seller many times, and they often seem to be polished or have many aftermarket parts.

Apr 19, 2015 11:34:58 GMT -8 sundog said:

The hands on the watch below.  Not only do they look too new, but aren't these one for.....say a 6138-0020 or a 6138-0040?

Or did the Japan models possibly use these wider hands?

[pollythecat]

Found this on WS after a quick search:-

wristsushi.proboards.com/thread/6399/seiko-6138-0030-combo-chart

The day/night hands are at least easier to read than the pathetic black ones with the white pointy ends

[Deleted]

The chart is to show between real and aftermarket/repainted dials, doomguy10011 enlightened us earlier My watch is also on there for referrence but I should take some nice close up photos for Wrist Sushi. From what I 'think' I understand about this model is the originals had white around the day/date window. The aftermarkets were silver or black.

Now the beware. I watched a aftermarket pile of crap make £484 last night on ebay. The usual seller beejoo4. That's $722US. This was a watch made from spare parts and with aftermarket dial, hands, bracelet and outer bezel. Likely a non Seiko crystal and gaskets been used too. I watched the same guy sell a brown bullhead 6138 for .... £720GB or $1075 which once again was made from aftermarket parts. The more these watches become worth, the harder it will become to spot fakes and lash up's.

You likely know I brought a load of gear off Stefan a couple of weeks back. One of the reasons I am super happy about the deal was I stopped beejoo from getting his hands on all the scrap chronograph cases. Without those he cannot make fakes. As it turned out it was a lovely lot of hard to find parts and a few watches to kick back into life but one of the key things on my mind was getting and destroying all those case backs. My trusty 5lb hammer sorted that out already

[cobrajet25]

Apr 20, 2015 1:34:11 GMT -8 @cockroach said:

...getting and destroying all those case backs. My trusty 5lb hammer sorted that out already

:puke: :puke: :puke:

[69ChevelleSS]

Apr 20, 2015 1:34:11 GMT -8 @cockroach said:

The chart is to show between real and aftermarket/repainted dials, doomguy10011 enlightened us earlier My watch is also on there for referrence but I should take some nice close up photos for Wrist Sushi. From what I 'think' I understand about this model is the originals had white around the day/date window. The aftermarkets were silver or black.

Now the beware. I watched a aftermarket pile of crap make £484 last night on ebay. The usual seller beejoo4. That's $722US. This was a watch made from spare parts and with aftermarket dial, hands, bracelet and outer bezel. Likely a non Seiko crystal and gaskets been used too. I watched the same guy sell a brown bullhead 6138 for .... £720GB or $1075 which once again was made from aftermarket parts. The more these watches become worth, the harder it will become to spot fakes and lash up's.

You likely know I brought a load of gear off Stefan a couple of weeks back. One of the reasons I am super happy about the deal was I stopped beejoo from getting his hands on all the scrap chronograph cases. Without those he cannot make fakes. As it turned out it was a lovely lot of hard to find parts and a few watches to kick back into life but one of the key things on my mind was getting and destroying all those case backs. My trusty 5lb hammer sorted that out already

Hey Tony . . . I thought beejoo4 bought all his stuff from Loy and tarted it up on ebay with sexy photos and elegant language.  Maybe I'm thinking of another UK seller who I became aware of on TOF.  IIRC, that seller had gone through a progression of ebay names.  Am I thinking of the same seller or is there another scheister to be aware of?

[sdoocms]

That watch looks all wrong.

[doomguy10011]

Bejoo4 has a number of other accounts on eBay, I believe. One of them is retroo1. I remember seeing a thread with a list of eBay buyers blacklisted by WS members a while back. Maybe it might be a good idea to start one for eBay sellers? It would help prevent novice buyers overpaying for loads of cobbled crap.

Apr 20, 2015 5:38:41 GMT -8 69ChevelleSS said:

Apr 20, 2015 1:34:11 GMT -8 @cockroach said:

The chart is to show between real and aftermarket/repainted dials, doomguy10011 enlightened us earlier My watch is also on there for referrence but I should take some nice close up photos for Wrist Sushi. From what I 'think' I understand about this model is the originals had white around the day/date window. The aftermarkets were silver or black.

Now the beware. I watched a aftermarket pile of crap make £484 last night on ebay. The usual seller beejoo4. That's $722US. This was a watch made from spare parts and with aftermarket dial, hands, bracelet and outer bezel. Likely a non Seiko crystal and gaskets been used too. I watched the same guy sell a brown bullhead 6138 for .... £720GB or $1075 which once again was made from aftermarket parts. The more these watches become worth, the harder it will become to spot fakes and lash up's.

You likely know I brought a load of gear off Stefan a couple of weeks back. One of the reasons I am super happy about the deal was I stopped beejoo from getting his hands on all the scrap chronograph cases. Without those he cannot make fakes. As it turned out it was a lovely lot of hard to find parts and a few watches to kick back into life but one of the key things on my mind was getting and destroying all those case backs. My trusty 5lb hammer sorted that out already

Hey Tony . . . I thought beejoo4 bought all his stuff from Loy and tarted it up on ebay with sexy photos and elegant language.  Maybe I'm thinking of another UK seller who I became aware of on TOF.  IIRC, that seller had gone through a progression of ebay names.  Am I thinking of the same seller or is there another scheister to be aware of?

[Deleted]

Indeed. Not one of the good guys.