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Post by Tegger on Apr 24, 2015 15:05:35 GMT -8
I was interested in this auction. Yeah, I know it's a lowly quartz, but I'm pathetic enough to actually like those. The seller had just one image, and a very sparse description that basically told me nothing. So I contacted him to ask these questions: -- What is the diameter of the case? -- What is the thickness? -- Have you got a photo of the caseback? the bracelet's clasp? -- Is the watch running correctly and keeping accurate time? -- Is there any water or impact damage to the movement, crystal, or dial? -- Are all parts original to the watch? (case, dial, hands, mov't, bracelet, crystal) -- Is the bracelet complete with all removable links? -- What is the bracelet's maximum wrist-size? -- Has the case or bracelet ever been polished or cleaned? Seller added text giving the diameter and thickness, a few really, really bad pictures...and ignored the rest of my questions. Especially check out his pic of the caseback. I won't be bidding on this one. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 15:14:49 GMT -8
I was interested in this auction. Yeah, I know it's a lowly quartz, but I'm pathetic enough to actually like those. The seller had just one image, and a very sparse description that basically told me nothing. So I contacted him to ask these questions: -- What is the diameter of the case? -- What is the thickness? -- Have you got a photo of the caseback? the bracelet's clasp? -- Is the watch running correctly and keeping accurate time? -- Is there any water or impact damage to the movement, crystal, or dial? -- Are all parts original to the watch? (case, dial, hands, mov't, bracelet, crystal) -- Is the bracelet complete with all removable links? -- What is the bracelet's maximum wrist-size? -- Has the case or bracelet ever been polished or cleaned? Seller added text giving the diameter and thickness, a few really, really bad pictures...and ignored the rest of my questions. Especially check out his pic of the caseback. I won't be bidding on this one. Your first mistake was asking more than one question in an e-mail! Very few people ever see all the questions and only respond to one of the questions. It isn't because people don't care or aren't smart. I deal with engineers and other professionals on a daily basis and learned a long time ago to send one e-mail for each question I wanted answered. I know it's a pain but that is the reality with electronic media :-/ You are wise to stay away from this seller unless you see the potential in the watch from just the photos. |
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Post by Tegger on Apr 24, 2015 15:35:59 GMT -8
Your first mistake was asking more than one question in an e-mail! Very few people ever see all the questions and only respond to one of the questions. It isn't because people don't care or aren't smart. I deal with engineers and other professionals on a daily basis and learned a long time ago to send one e-mail for each question I wanted answered. I know it's a pain but that is the reality with electronic media :-/ You are wise to stay away from this seller unless you see the potential in the watch from just the photos. The photos are part of my point. The seller's first photo was the closeup of the dial, which is a pretty good photo. But for the additional images he manages to lose all of his photography skills and takes the worst photographs in the world. Uh, okay... Some sellers are on-the-ball. There was another auction I was interested in where I asked the seller (hosoirenmei) FOUR questions in one email, and he actually answered all four at once. But I do get your point about the poor reading-skills of a very many people, even otherwise intelligent ones. |
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Post by igniferroque on Apr 24, 2015 16:25:49 GMT -8
Frankly that watch probably won't sell for much. How much is the seller going to be able to increase the sales price by answering all your questions? Is it really worth it to answer your questions (which gives you grounds to return it if he makes any mistakes)? Does he want a picky buyer such as yourself buying the watch?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 16:51:24 GMT -8
Frankly that watch probably won't sell for much. How much is the seller going to be able to increase the sales price by answering all your questions? Is it really worth it to answer your questions (which gives you grounds to return it if he makes any mistakes)? Does he want a picky buyer such as yourself buying the watch? Good points  |
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Post by HiBeat on Apr 24, 2015 17:00:12 GMT -8
I think you guys got this all wrong. The seller is being honest, probably not a WIS as,evidenced by not listing the diameter. Thicknrss? I've sold 100 watches and never once did I list the thickness.
How's it running and all that? Look, it's working today. That's the deal.
I agree he snapped the back from up high to hide the crappy state of the back that appears to be corroded but at least he posted it.
Not be descriptive for legal defense in case of a return request? Silly. Just say No Returns. Simple enough. Ultimately the seller has the short stick with PayPal anyway.
Looks like a 5Y20 or 5Y23 to me, maybe a 5C20. They typically are worth $20-30.
OP you're not pathetic! I'm normally a mechanical watch only guy too but I really like it too for the clean design and Seiko DNA. Maybe I'll bid on it !
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Post by cd_god on Apr 24, 2015 17:17:24 GMT -8
Looks like your basic 1980s quartz Seiko.
I'd say 36MM case without crown, thinner than an automatic (if it was a 7546 quartz or any of the older ones with the battery hatch on the caseback it would be as thick as a current 7S26 auto with a display back)
On a used watch without the box and papers there will not be any extra links.
It's not a Rolex. I wouldn't worry about the case or bracelet being polished.
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Post by jringo8769 on Apr 24, 2015 17:25:59 GMT -8
hey i sell on the bay from time to time too...and i have a special place in my heart for old quartz watches too....i also know that many sellers do not know much of what they sell and see if you ask lot of questions about specs and what not...they will figure that you more than likely will not be happy with your purchase too...it is a inexpensive watch and there is lots of them out there very reasonable...so do not be discouraged by one listing....God Bless John..the right one will come along soon
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 18:11:03 GMT -8
Looks like your basic 1980s quartz Seiko. I'd say 36MM case without crown, thinner than an automatic (if it was a 7546 quartz or any of the older ones with the battery hatch on the caseback it would be as thick as a current 7S26 auto with a display back) On a used watch without the box and papers there will not be any extra links. It's not a Rolex. I wouldn't worry about the case or bracelet being polished. You know Josh, that watch looks almost exactly like the one you gifted me several years ago. If I remember correctly, it was a 5y23 model. I kept it through one battery change then passed it on to a fellow who seemed to be in love with it. |
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Post by 69ChevelleSS on Apr 25, 2015 5:41:25 GMT -8
For a few pounds, it may be worth a punt if you like the looks!
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Post by Tegger on Apr 25, 2015 5:56:21 GMT -8
Frankly that watch probably won't sell for much. How much is the seller going to be able to increase the sales price by answering all your questions? Is it really worth it to answer your questions (which gives you grounds to return it if he makes any mistakes)? Does he want a picky buyer such as yourself buying the watch? I didn't see myself as being picky, I just wanted to know what I was getting. I was not interested in being surprised by a watch that was in a condition that I did not want. Note also that the seller specifically states, "...any specific questions please ask", so I did. Was it unreasonable to expect that his offer was genuine? |
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Post by Tegger on Apr 25, 2015 5:58:41 GMT -8
For a few pounds, it may be worth a punt if you like the looks! Absolutely. But my main concern is that it might be polished. Yes, it's a cheap watch, but I prefer honest wear instead of polishing. And the seller never said either way. |
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Post by 69ChevelleSS on Apr 25, 2015 5:59:57 GMT -8
For a few pounds, it may be worth a punt if you like the looks! Absolutely. But my main concern is that it might be polished. Yes, it's a cheap watch, but I prefer honest wear instead of polishing. And the seller never said either way. If you don't like it, you could always donate it to the thrift shop where some non-WIS can find it and fall in love! |
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Post by Tegger on Apr 25, 2015 6:13:22 GMT -8
the right one will come along soon That's what I'm hoping. I'm looking for a silver-dialed quartz from the '70s. Preferably a Silver Wave. But I'm cheap... It took a year, but this picky guy did eventually find the bracelet end-link he was looking for for the 7546-8049 he's had for 37 years. On that purchase, the only question I asked the seller was whether the end-links said "B323" on the underside. He said they did, so I bid for the watch. His pics were pretty good, so I could tell that even if the links had been refinished it wasn't going to be noticeable. The watch turned out to have been heavily refinished, plus it had the wrong crystal (pressed in on an angle), and the movement stops randomly. But none of that mattered. All I wanted was the end-link; and for $10, that was pretty much all I got. He was a good seller, and I left very positive feedback. |
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