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Post by earthphase on Sept 11, 2017 7:12:55 GMT -8
Hey guys...
I know it is accepted that it is better to leave the chrono running, but if I prefer not to does it significantly hurt the movement or is it just one of those "not recommended" type deals?
Also, are original hands easy to come by, or do we rely mostly on AM now?
Thanks.
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Post by rob3rto on Sept 11, 2017 7:40:45 GMT -8
I think Spencer Klein said it's best to leave running otherwise it puts a strain on a very hard to find part.
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Post by leffemonster on Sept 11, 2017 7:43:08 GMT -8
 I recall a thread (or more than one?) on here about this subject in the past. I only own one and always had the chrono stopped until I read the stuff from Spencer.
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Post by Groundhog66 on Sept 11, 2017 7:43:11 GMT -8
You had previously asked the question HERE, I gotta believe the opinions are the same at this point. |
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Post by SeikoPsycho on Sept 11, 2017 8:45:21 GMT -8
Basically, the vertical clutch is comprised of a small spring like clutch which applies tension to release the chrono from running. When not running the spring is compressed. Over time, when kept in the non running position the spring becomes weak because it's always compressed. A weak spring allows the chrono to slip.
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Post by earthphase on Sept 11, 2017 19:35:08 GMT -8
You had previously asked the question HERE, I gotta believe the opinions are the same at this point. Thanks for chiming in. Any help on question 2, or just flashing the badge? |
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Post by rob3rto on Sept 12, 2017 1:30:44 GMT -8
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Post by earthphase on Sept 12, 2017 6:50:11 GMT -8
Awesome link thank you
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Post by Groundhog66 on Sept 12, 2017 7:02:58 GMT -8
You had previously asked the question HERE, I gotta believe the opinions are the same at this point. Thanks for chiming in. Any help on question 2, or just flashing the badge? Flashing the badge? Yeah, because that's what I do around here. Sorry for taking the time to run down a previous thread, I'll refrain from such things in your future threads...my apologies. |
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Post by dasher on Sept 12, 2017 8:28:19 GMT -8
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Post by HiBeat on Sept 12, 2017 18:48:37 GMT -8
You had previously asked the question HERE, I gotta believe the opinions are the same at this point. Holy Cow Tim, either you have Josh-like crazy photographic memory or you are a private eye by night. Wowza. Impressive ! |
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Post by HiBeat on Sept 12, 2017 18:54:53 GMT -8
Hey guys... I know it is accepted that it is better to leave the chrono running, but if I prefer not to does it significantly hurt the movement or is it just one of those "not recommended" type deals? Also, are original hands easy to come by, or do we rely mostly on AM now? Thanks. Tony, I will take the contrarian position on how I run my 6139- chronos. Yes, I totally understand the whole clutch/wear analysis, and I do not doubt it. But guess what? I like my chronos hands-up laying in wait when I wear them. I don't want to see the sweeper moving around or the subdial off 30 until I am actually timing something. So how do I stand myself for subjecting them to all this 'excess wear'? Frankly I don't care. I mean, if I wear each 6139 1 day a month and it runs down over the next 2 days such that every time I pull it out of the watch box it runs for 3 days, and I wear it once a month, then that's 36 days of usage a year. So in 10 years it will be the equivalent of 1 full year's worth of continuous running. I can modify this strategy to start the chrono when I put it onto its pillow after a 16 hour day and back into the box and extend this to 45 years to equal one continuous harmful year of running with the chrono stopped. See my point? Unless you truly wear one particular 6139 a lot (and I know some guys do) then it's a moot point. In my book and I want to wear them 'ready to start timing' like every good chrono should look on the wrist. That's what a 6139 on the wrist should look like !  |
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Post by Groundhog66 on Sept 12, 2017 19:55:18 GMT -8
You had previously asked the question HERE, I gotta believe the opinions are the same at this point. Holy Cow Tim, either you have Josh-like crazy photographic memory or you are a private eye by night. Wowza. Impressive ! Neither, I did remember the discussion, and the search function actually works in most cases.  |
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Post by leffemonster on Sept 12, 2017 22:03:23 GMT -8
HiBeat, I'm kind of with you on that point Jon. I hate wearing my 6139 and seeing the subdial not indicating the correct minute of the hour. Sad, I know, and perhaps a little OCD (and I do realise it's designed as a timer and not a minute sub-dial to mimic the minute hand) but it drives me nuts. So when I wear mine, which is perhaps every few weeks, I always start the chrono running either on the hour or half hour. I just have to hope then that I don't inadvertently stop it while wearing it 
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Post by tritto on Sept 13, 2017 2:53:17 GMT -8
I'm generally a chrono running guy. No mechanical logic behind it, I just like seeing the big second hand ticking.
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Post by pip on Sept 13, 2017 4:27:29 GMT -8
I leave mine running too, mainly because unlike the way it looks. If I need to time something it's no biggie to press stop and then reset first (or use my phone 😱)
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Post by 69ChevelleSS on Sept 13, 2017 5:12:38 GMT -8
OK . . . . here is another data point . . . .
My Dad was given his yellow 6139 in November 1972 (August 72 build date per case back). He wore it for years and I believe he never ran the chrono. When he got tired of it (or got a new watch) he gave it to me and I wore it daily for years. When the stem broke, it went into a drawer for many years.
Long story short . . . . I decided a few times to get it fixed since I always loved the watch . . . sent it to Seiko and they said "nope . . . . too old . . . . no parts here". Move forward a few more years and did a bit of internet research and found SCWF. Put out a post asking for help with the part and Shawn C. messaged me saying "hey . . . I have a genuine part . . . send me the watch and I'll put it in for you". Despite much trepidation about send the watch I loved so much to a complete stranger, I took the plunge and sent it to him. Shortly thereafter, I get a message from him saying the install was successful, the movement was beautiful but it could use a service. Enter stage right Spencer Klein. Sent the watch to Spencer for a full service. It's been a few years but I don't think that Spencer had to replace any parts during the service.
So . . . . there you have it . . . just one man's experience and opinion.
Oh . . . just for the record, I do run the chronos on my 6138 and 6139s when I wear them!
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Post by earthphase on Sept 13, 2017 6:45:45 GMT -8
Jon - you nailed it. Your views I share and are exactly why I asked the question.
I may adopt your approach, and Adrian's story makes me feel a little better.
Does a PDF 6139 user manual exist??? I googled it and can up empty....
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Post by HiBeat on Sept 13, 2017 6:49:31 GMT -8
HiBeat , I'm kind of with you on that point Jon. I hate wearing my 6139 and seeing the subdial not indicating the correct minute of the hour. Sad, I know, and perhaps a little OCD (and I do realise it's designed as a timer and not a minute sub-dial to mimic the minute hand) but it drives me nuts. So when I wear mine, which is perhaps every few weeks, I always start the chrono running either on the hour or half hour. I just have to hope then that I don't inadvertently stop it while wearing it See that's my point - you wear the watch every few weeks - so who needs to worry about 'excess wear' issues ? |
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Post by Groundhog66 on Sept 13, 2017 7:18:13 GMT -8
Hey guys... I know it is accepted that it is better to leave the chrono running, but if I prefer not to does it significantly hurt the movement or is it just one of those "not recommended" type deals? Also, are original hands easy to come by, or do we rely mostly on AM now? Thanks. Tony, I will take the contrarian position on how I run my 6139- chronos. Yes, I totally understand the whole clutch/wear analysis, and I do not doubt it. But guess what? I like my chronos hands-up laying in wait when I wear them. I don't want to see the sweeper moving around or the subdial off 30 until I am actually timing something. So how do I stand myself for subjecting them to all this 'excess wear'? Frankly I don't care. I mean, if I wear each 6139 1 day a month and it runs down over the next 2 days such that every time I pull it out of the watch box it runs for 3 days, and I wear it once a month, then that's 36 days of usage a year. So in 10 years it will be the equivalent of 1 full year's worth of continuous running. I can modify this strategy to start the chrono when I put it onto its pillow after a 16 hour day and back into the box and extend this to 45 years to equal one continuous harmful year of running with the chrono stopped. See my point? Unless you truly wear one particular 6139 a lot (and I know some guys do) then it's a moot point. In my book and I want to wear them 'ready to start timing' like every good chrono should look on the wrist. That's what a 6139 on the wrist should look like ! Must be nice to have such an extensive 6139 collection, us poor folks have to choose from just a couple. |
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