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Post by earthphase on Aug 4, 2023 6:39:00 GMT -8
Im gonna say it is not going to happen... but if it does I have 3 fears:
1) Too $ 2) Not accurate 3) Brings unwanted attention to our little slice of the universe
What do you guys think?
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Post by leffemonster on Aug 4, 2023 7:27:31 GMT -8
It’ll certainly be too much $$$$/££££ (for me at least) it does happen.
As for being faithful to the original, they pretty much nailed it with the SRPK17K1 so perhaps the suits at Seiko are finally waking up and taking notice. Who knows, perhaps that release might have been a ‘let’s see how the market reacts to a proper reinterpretation release’
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Post by HiBeat on Aug 4, 2023 8:12:09 GMT -8
They have the 8R48 to just pull out the hours accumulator and presto good to go
Funny how 55th is a celebrator year now. I don't get it. You hit 50 years or wait to 60 but why 55?
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Post by victor on Aug 4, 2023 8:18:37 GMT -8
They have the 8R48 to just pull out the hours accumulator and presto good to go Funny how 55th is a celebrator year now. I don't get it. You hit 50 years or wait to 60 but why 55?
Because $$$. Duh.
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Post by appumaster on Aug 4, 2023 8:30:52 GMT -8
Seiko 5. So I guess they like it because 55 has two of them 😂😂
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Post by nordlys on Aug 4, 2023 12:06:45 GMT -8
As others have said, if they ever did make a reissue of any 6139, it would be too expensive with lesser QC standards than the original (look at all of the other Seiko reissues and reinterpretations).
I'll always stick with the originals.
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Post by dapellegrini on Aug 4, 2023 16:37:05 GMT -8
I suspect I am in the minority hoping they do, that it is as true to original as possible + winding would be nice. I'd pay $$$$ if it was done right, maybe even sell some of my vintage ones. I like the 6139, but since I have joined the vintage Seiko bandwagon only two or three years ago - this specific model range has been overpriced, over hyped and over faked - kinda ruining it for me.
I suspect they have to make a re-issue at some point, and my guess is once they make one, then we will see iterations of it every year - each one limited, and possibly better than the last in execution - it would likely be a cash cow for them.
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Post by nordlys on Aug 4, 2023 19:26:40 GMT -8
I suspect I am in the minority hoping they do, that it is as true to original as possible + winding would be nice. I'd pay $$$$ if it was done right, maybe even sell some of my vintage ones. I like the 6139, but since I have joined the vintage Seiko bandwagon only two or three years ago - this specific model range has been overpriced, over hyped and over faked - kinda ruining it for me. I suspect they have to make a re-issue at some point, and my guess is once they make one, then we will see iterations of it every year - each one limited, and possibly better than the last in execution - it would likely be a cash cow for them. I agree that pricing of 6139s in general, and Pogues in particular, has gotten crazy over the past 4-5 years. Perhaps I'm stuck in my ways in thinking that an original 6139 in excellent condition should cost $250-500 depending on the reference, as they did back in the early to mid 2010s. So if a reissue was more than $500, then I wouldn't really be interested in it.
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Post by dapellegrini on Aug 4, 2023 19:30:15 GMT -8
A clean, legit 6139 with a clean dial and case, all original is going for 800-3000 usd depending on the specifics these days. And at that price 80% are fakes or hacks.
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Post by nordlys on Aug 4, 2023 19:33:58 GMT -8
A clean, legit 6139 with a clean dial and case, all original is going for 800-3000 usd depending on the specifics these days. And at that price 80% are fakes or hacks. Geeze. I'm glad that I'm satisfied with my current vintage Seiko collection.
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Post by trilo on Aug 4, 2023 21:07:09 GMT -8
A clean, legit 6139 with a clean dial and case, all original is going for 800-3000 usd depending on the specifics these days. And at that price 80% are fakes or hacks. My friend bought a fake Pogue from a Finnish antiques fair, from a Swedish antiques dealer, face to face. THAT'S how infected the Pogue market is Population of Finland is 5,6 million.
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Post by Fergus on Aug 4, 2023 23:02:36 GMT -8
4) They might make an LE
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Post by small on Aug 5, 2023 4:17:08 GMT -8
I have been in the Seiko market place for a while and I'd like to own an original but I'm not of the means and as its been stated over and over the fakes are out there. I don't mind Homage I own couple, but not fakes. Kind of goes without saying that price will determine for me but I'm more inclined to pony up for a new reissue than I would a vintage...O really think they did a great job on SRPK17K1 like leffe said, I bet they can do as well on these. I do dig the SRPK17K1 but again not on my budget...
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Post by Fergus on Aug 7, 2023 20:25:11 GMT -8
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Post by appumaster on Aug 7, 2023 20:33:24 GMT -8
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Post by saul on Aug 8, 2023 13:32:48 GMT -8
I suspect I am in the minority hoping they do, that it is as true to original as possible + winding would be nice. I'd pay $$$$ if it was done right, maybe even sell some of my vintage ones. I like the 6139, but since I have joined the vintage Seiko bandwagon only two or three years ago - this specific model range has been overpriced, over hyped and over faked - kinda ruining it for me. I suspect they have to make a re-issue at some point, and my guess is once they make one, then we will see iterations of it every year - each one limited, and possibly better than the last in execution - it would likely be a cash cow for them. So I shouldn't mention my September 1971 6139-6005 gold dial that I bought from the daughter of the only owner and it had been worn for 10 years and sat in a jewelry box for the next 26 years until she sold it to me for $85 in a F2F at a 7-11 2 miles down the road? Or that it was only 7,534 units off the assembly line from Col. Pogue's? Of course 2008 was a long time ago in this collecting world. I'll not see the like of that deal again in this life...
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Post by dapellegrini on Aug 8, 2023 13:36:57 GMT -8
Yes, that is an epic deal. Let's just hope when we do finally see a Yellow dial re-edition, its not just one of these with a different dial color (which BTW retail for $700):
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Post by leffemonster on Aug 8, 2023 14:24:22 GMT -8
To do a proper anniversary edition I really think Seiko would have to manufacture a new calibre. The 6139 is a day/date single register automatic chronograph, and there’s no existing calibre that comes close to properly re-creating that.
The 8R46/48 are double and triple register chronographs and would need considerable reworking to a) include a day complication, b) re-orientate the date complication, and c) lose the running seconds and chrono hour sub dials and re-orientate the chrono minutes sub dial. That’s a fair bit of work so probably best to start over.
If it does ever come about and Seiko introduce a new single register day/date automatic chronograph calibre you can guarantee it’ll be a bloody expensive LE model, especially if they go down the 8xxx calibre route, that will sell out in next to no time. Of course, the suits might decide to go mainstream and produce a new ‘lower end’ non-limited edition 6xxx calibre that ticks all the boxes that will satisfy the purists. But I wouldn’t recommend anyone holds their breath…
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Post by 69ChevelleSS on Aug 8, 2023 17:03:59 GMT -8
I suspect I am in the minority hoping they do, that it is as true to original as possible + winding would be nice. I'd pay $$$$ if it was done right, maybe even sell some of my vintage ones. I like the 6139, but since I have joined the vintage Seiko bandwagon only two or three years ago - this specific model range has been overpriced, over hyped and over faked - kinda ruining it for me. I suspect they have to make a re-issue at some point, and my guess is once they make one, then we will see iterations of it every year - each one limited, and possibly better than the last in execution - it would likely be a cash cow for them. So I shouldn't mention my September 1971 6139-6005 gold dial that I bought from the daughter of the only owner and it had been worn for 10 years and sat in a jewelry box for the next 26 years until she sold it to me for $85 in a F2F at a 7-11 2 miles down the road? Or that it was only 7,534 units off the assembly line from Col. Pogue's? Of course 2008 was a long time ago in this collecting world. I'll not see the like of that deal again in this life... I know that I've posted this at least two or three times, but I paid $50 for this one (out of guilt when I was told it was $35) that was listed on Craigs List in NYC. I couldn't get there fast enough! I left my office, got on a subway and almost ran out of the train station to meet the seller! Even came on a tapered bracelet.
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Post by dapellegrini on Aug 8, 2023 17:18:49 GMT -8
Another steal for sure. I am no expert on these, but am curious - are the A's in JAPAN on the dial supposed to be pointy? I don't have an R dial, but all my T dials are flat topped A's, and there is more spacing between JAPAN and 6139.
EDIT: I think the R-dial does have the pointy A's and less spacing like that. Huh, just learned something. I have made a few others a lot of money selling me theirs - nothing like the deals here :/
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