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Post by peterr on Mar 26, 2024 7:32:38 GMT -8
I picked up my new glasses this morning. Once again, my distance vision has improved (bizarre…) to the point where that part of the vari-focal lens prescription is pretty much plain glass. So now, when I’m out walking, I feel like I’m about a foot shorter than with my old glasses. It’s a very odd feeling indeed! However, I digress. We’re here for the watches! For today, I’m sporting the SRPK17K1.  How do you like the bracelet? I don’t like the fit at all and had to change to a new, aftermarket, vintage style beads of rice. It did not conform to my wrist and was more oval-like on the wrist rather than round. Unfortunate for me because I like the look.  yeah, i had the same problem with it, it wouldn't bend deeply enough to conform to my wrist, so i replaced it with a $40 bracelet from Rdunae which works much better. That beads of rice looks good too, and comfy. |
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Post by victor on Mar 26, 2024 7:33:46 GMT -8
Yes, MT920 or Seiko 302344Z. When you mentioned you could only get 2/3rds charged I went ahead and pressed the button. I only have 1/3 charge for 5 days wear. What a farce! Considering how hard I tried to get the thing to full charge. Should've seen the look on a co-worker as I was busy giving it the Seiko shuffle under the desk as I worked. She got the wrong first impression. Anyway, experiment over. I'll change this to a standard non-chargeable battery. I have a 5M42-0E50 which still runs on the same standard Renata SR920 battery since 2019. dudlei , I'll double check this when I get home later in the evening. IIRC Seiko started using MT920 in 2005. Before that they had a cell which would hold charge roughly for a week. Those cells give a bad rap to Kinetic (often worn out and hold charge poorly compared to Eco-Drives). One can upgrade and "fix" their old kinetic simply swapping in a Panasonic MT920 cell, with removing the Seiko proprietary tab attached on to the old one and using it as connector for the new cell (removing requires some tinkering). I have done it and it works well (plain MT920 costs around 5£ with postage). ouroboros Have you done a swap? When I changed the cell I was wondering if the reason for the "low" charge was due to circuit unable to read and display the new cell properly (7 days vs. 6 months). Then again I read somewhere that people had been wearing their watches for month or so daily to get theirs to budge. I have replaced the cell on two Kinectic, switching to Panasonic cells. In the course of my research, I found that 1. the watches really need to be worn for about three weeks, continuously, to fully charge; 2. the "Seiko Shuffle" does not work for charging these as they have a different pattern for charging via motion. This is the reason that a typical automatic watch charging case does not work for these watches, though I have seen ones offered on eBay that have been modified for Kinectic watches. The bottom line is that these watches are intended to be worn continuously, and if they aren't, they have problems. They're not really good for folks that switch watches every day, unless you can source a kinectic induction charger to top them off. |
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Post by cd_god on Mar 26, 2024 8:06:26 GMT -8
Doctor said I am gonna die  
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Post by inboost on Mar 26, 2024 8:22:04 GMT -8
Doctor said I am gonna die
Well that's not the kind of news we want to hear from a Doctor cd_god. I'm hoping that there is a little more to the message like, "...If you don't stop riding your motorcycle to the Northside" |
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Post by victor on Mar 26, 2024 8:49:53 GMT -8
Doctor said I am gonna die
Actuarially speaking, that's never incorrect - but possibly he gave you a timeline?
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Post by trilo on Mar 26, 2024 8:50:09 GMT -8
dudlei IIRC Seiko started using MT920 in 2005. Before that they had a cell which would hold charge roughly for a week. Those cells give a bad rap to Kinetic (often worn out and hold charge poorly compared to Eco-Drives). One can upgrade and "fix" their old kinetic simply swapping in a Panasonic MT920 cell, with removing the Seiko proprietary tab attached on to the old one and using it as connector for the new cell (removing requires some tinkering). I have done it and it works well (plain MT920 costs around 5£ with postage). ouroboros Have you done a swap? When I changed the cell I was wondering if the reason for the "low" charge was due to circuit unable to read and display the new cell properly (7 days vs. 6 months). Then again I read somewhere that people had been wearing their watches for month or so daily to get theirs to budge. I have replaced the cell on two Kinectic, switching to Panasonic cells. In the course of my research, I found that 1. the watches really need to be worn for about three weeks, continuously, to fully charge; 2. the "Seiko Shuffle" does not work for charging these as they have a different pattern for charging via motion. This is the reason that a typical automatic watch charging case does not work for these watches, though I have seen ones offered on eBay that have been modified for Kinectic watches. The bottom line is that these watches are intended to be worn continuously, and if they aren't, they have problems. They're not really good for folks that switch watches every day, unless you can source a kinectic induction charger to top them off. Thank you for the exact time window! I couldn't find anything accurate from internet and my 2 week experiment was bit sporadic to be honest (I tried to wear it along with my other watch). I ended up donating it. Valuable information. |
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Post by peterr on Mar 26, 2024 8:51:13 GMT -8
Doctor said I am gonna die
Well that's not the kind of news we want to hear from a Doctor cd_god . I'm hoping that there is a little more to the message like, "...If you don't stop riding your motorcycle to the Northside" well, the doctor didn't say much, i mean, it looks like no one here gets out alive. |
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Post by cd_god on Mar 26, 2024 9:03:50 GMT -8
Well that's not the kind of news we want to hear from a Doctor cd_god . I'm hoping that there is a little more to the message like, "...If you don't stop riding your motorcycle to the Northside" well, the doctor didn't say much, i mean, it looks like no one here gets out alive.
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Post by grungent on Mar 26, 2024 9:07:18 GMT -8
I have one of these for charging my Kinetics:
It's cheap and cheerful and charges my Seiko kinetics very quickly. Full charge about 25 minutes.
Hmm the links not working. It's a FEICHONGHO Watch Winder. I got mine on Amazon for £15.
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Post by longbike on Mar 26, 2024 9:22:07 GMT -8
Aloha ,
Well I have one of those ... BFK 369 Models and it kept giving me problems so
......I just removed the Kinetic part it and put a .. >>> Energizer 371 battery in it and it solved the everyday problem.
Heck, I just use it for a run around doings but it keep good time yet. I got it free and not working so it's good t go.
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Post by longbike on Mar 26, 2024 9:25:31 GMT -8
Aloha This for a few hours to give it some time. Going to clean up my new toy lathe later on. Citizens Aqualand 5861 now working good but still needs a Bracelet yet. Found it in a ...... Junk Box so serviced it and it fired up. 
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Post by victor on Mar 26, 2024 9:33:05 GMT -8
I have one of these for charging my Kinetics:
It's cheap and cheerful and charges my Seiko kinetics very quickly. Full charge about 25 minutes.
Hmm the links not working. It's a FEICHONGHO Watch Winder. I got mine on Amazon for £15.
Ordered - just what I need, more cheap tat. 
Seriously though, since I have two kinectics, this will be perfect, should it work, and will also likely be popular with the office cat.
Will report back on its effectiveness. Thanks!
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Post by grungent on Mar 26, 2024 9:41:43 GMT -8
I have one of these for charging my Kinetics:
It's cheap and cheerful and charges my Seiko kinetics very quickly. Full charge about 25 minutes.
Hmm the links not working. It's a FEICHONGHO Watch Winder. I got mine on Amazon for £15.
Ordered - just what I need, more cheap tat.
Seriously though, since I have two kinectics, this will be perfect, should it work, and will also likely be popular with the office cat.
Will report back on its effectiveness. Thanks!
Fingers crossed! I have some 5m42's and 5m63's and it works very well with them. Normal chargers revolve back and forth. This one swings the watch back and forth like it would on the wrist of someone marching. It provides much more momentum. It does have magnets in it so I wouldn't use it for a normal automatic just in case. |
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Post by twhp101 on Mar 26, 2024 9:45:24 GMT -8
Jeez, a busy thread today! trilo love the Seiko, that level of geekiness is right up my street also. inboost also love the dial on the Slava! Interesting about the kinetics, will buy one of those chargers. I have a dozen or so and some spare capacitors waiting for replacement. I don't much care for the styling of the late 90s Kinetics, but went big on Auto Quartz. Photo of a few of them below. I went Timex Electric today   |
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Post by ouroboros on Mar 26, 2024 9:46:03 GMT -8
Is it the modern MT920 cell? I wore mine for weeks, daily, and didn't get more than 20 out 30 charge (for those who don't know, charge is displayed in second and 30 is full charge). Apparently it takes ages to get it full with kinetic charging compared to solar. Which battery do you think would fit. I have one same problem with charging , it is indeed a Renata SR920. The two foreign objects are stale Rodico and some masking tape. I don't know why I put it in there but it works. I also noticed that the screws are mismatched. I'll look into this sometime in the mid future.    The Seiko shuffle is not on the horizonta axis but rather the vertical. |
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Post by serdal22 on Mar 26, 2024 9:57:56 GMT -8
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Post by inboost on Mar 26, 2024 9:58:18 GMT -8
will also likely be popular with the office cat. Will report back on its effectiveness. Thanks!  |
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Post by inboost on Mar 26, 2024 10:05:27 GMT -8
It does have magnets in it so I wouldn't use it for a normal automatic just in case. You'll notice in the advert on Amazon they are waving a Gauss meter past your contraption and a normal stepping motor watch winder. In the manner in which they probe/test they show their swing-set contraption has less emitted magnetic field than the traditional watch winder. If they didn't play any games with taking the measurement, I'd say you've got nothing to fear with any watch becoming magnetized from the mag-lev function of the device.
What you will need to be careful with is over-wind! I've tested mechanical watch wind up and it only takes about 3min of constant "Seiko Shake" to hit full power measured by amplitude (not full wind mind you, but definitely well-wound). If you ran this device on a mechanical watch for more than say 10min I think you'd be seriously into a problem area of dragging the bridle around the barrel wall too much and all of the bad things the world will tell you about doing that.
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Post by grungent on Mar 26, 2024 10:57:22 GMT -8
It does have magnets in it so I wouldn't use it for a normal automatic just in case. You'll notice in the advert on Amazon they are waving a Gauss meter past your contraption and a normal stepping motor watch winder. In the manner in which they probe/test they show their swing-set contraption has less emitted magnetic field than the traditional watch winder. If they didn't play any games with taking the measurement, I'd say you've got nothing to fear with any watch becoming magnetized from the mag-lev function of the device.
What you will need to be careful with is over-wind! I've tested mechanical watch wind up and it only takes about 3min of constant "Seiko Shake" to hit full power measured by amplitude (not full wind mind you, but definitely well-wound). If you ran this device on a mechanical watch for more than say 10min I think you'd be seriously into a problem area of dragging the bridle around the barrel wall too much and all of the bad things the world will tell you about doing that.
You might be right but I'm not so sure. The winder is simply exagerating the movement of the wrist. If what you say is true then if you continue to wear a fully charged watch then you are causing damage. I can't believe that that would be the case. |
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Post by 69ChevelleSS on Mar 26, 2024 10:59:15 GMT -8
Doctor said I am gonna die
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