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Post by earthphase on Nov 6, 2015 14:53:13 GMT -8
After months of flea market snooping around and asking who to talk to, I may have found the one Ive wanted more then any other. But before I get to excited, opinions please on this dial.... I'll check the case back when we meet up.  |
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Post by earthphase on Nov 6, 2015 14:56:31 GMT -8
...and from what i have been able to gather, he has owned this watch for decades and is not into watches, so...
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Post by Groundhog66 on Nov 6, 2015 14:58:30 GMT -8
Are the AM dials smooth, and OEM a bit textured on this model? Difficult to tell by that pic, but I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will chime in.
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Post by tritto on Nov 6, 2015 15:26:20 GMT -8
My guess is that the dial is AM. Most of the AM dials the text under the Seiko is slightly to the left of the S in Seiko. The genuine dials (as far as I know) have all three lines of text perfectly lined up on the left. Also, the subdials are very black. On mine the subdials are more of a grey-black colour. If you look at the text at the bottom right of the dial it should be -8040T. It's hard to be sure with the resolution but I think your example may be missing the dash. Lastly, the dial looks like a flat white, rather than the vertically brushed off white. This can be difficult to capture in photos though. Here is my example. The dial isn't in great condition, but it's a point of comparison for you.  |
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Post by earthphase on Nov 6, 2015 15:29:13 GMT -8
the picture i have that was texted to me has the dash, but is not aligned under seiko.
thanks guys keep em coming
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Post by earthphase on Nov 6, 2015 15:38:31 GMT -8
according to the internet, this is a AM dial  |
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Post by earthphase on Nov 6, 2015 15:38:49 GMT -8
not good for me.
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Post by tritto on Nov 6, 2015 15:50:08 GMT -8
I've tried to take a shot that shows the vertical brushing you're looking for. It's damned hard to capture. Almost a silver rather than a white dial. Attachments:
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Post by Groundhog66 on Nov 6, 2015 15:57:07 GMT -8
I've tried to take a shot that shows the vertical brushing you're looking for. It's damned hard to capture. Almost a silver rather than a white dial. There you go, that's what I was talking about, the AM dial is a smooth white I believe. |
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Post by earthphase on Nov 6, 2015 16:10:57 GMT -8
It appears there is no point in even meeting up with this guy.
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Post by Groundhog66 on Nov 6, 2015 16:14:30 GMT -8
How far do you have to travel to meet up? Is he claiming it's OEM?
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Post by earthphase on Nov 6, 2015 16:40:10 GMT -8
no - i am certain he probably has no ides. not far, 10 minutes away.
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Post by Adrian-VTA on Nov 6, 2015 18:02:49 GMT -8
Close up of a ginuwine one. It has a linen texture -  |
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Post by camrok on Nov 6, 2015 18:47:17 GMT -8
Close up of a ginuwine one. It has a linen texture - Could that beer mine? |
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Post by Adrian-VTA on Nov 6, 2015 19:45:50 GMT -8
It surely is. I think you'll get it back fairly soon. I haven't found any hands for it though. Close up of a ginuwine one. It has a linen texture - Could that beer mine? |
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Post by camrok on Nov 6, 2015 19:52:58 GMT -8
It surely is. I think you'll get it back fairly soon. I haven't found any hands for it though. Tritto has been keeping his eyes peeled too. There pretty elusive. I never expected to find them. |
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Post by west.au on Nov 7, 2015 0:50:44 GMT -8
Close up of a ginuwine one. It has a linen texture - I would say that the make or break for this model is the north-south striations and that characteristic champagne silver color dial... Its nice that we have hi-res pics available nowadays! |
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Post by C4L18R3 on Nov 7, 2015 1:25:14 GMT -8
I can't really tell from that photo on top. But yeah, the original Panda dial has a linen texture to it and the subdials are not entirely black, more like matte black that so matte that it turns gray at certain angles. It's very difficult to see the texture but this is another photo with the North-South lines and gray dial. Here's mine:  The thing is this texture is difficult to photograph. Here's mine again with seemingly no texture when taken again:  Here's another original showing the texture. Photo borrowed from the net:  The following are are AM ones. The subdials are 'too' black! But the most distinct feature of an AM dial is the stupid twisted "S" font. AM dial makers seem to have a hard time copying this logo when it is in this applied form. This is the first thing I look at when surveying a potential watch to buy. Compare the "S" below with the perfect ones on the original above. Photos borrowed from the net.  This one has a better looking "S" but still not up to par with the original. The dead giveaway that this is AM are the subdials! They suck bigtime compared to the original. Somehow they have some extra space between the minute markers and the border of the subdial. I'm seeing an attempt at having texture but it pales in comparison to the original. This photo looks like its from that infamous cobbler based in the UK.  I say if it is 10 minutes away then its worth a look. What have you got to lose?  |
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Post by cobrajet25 on Nov 7, 2015 3:42:54 GMT -8
The 6138-8020 should indeed have a 'linen dial', which means subtle texture lines running north-south, as Adrian so ably pointed out. What bothers me about the OP's mystery watch is the subdials.
Aftermarket dials have blackish subdials with a 'sunburst' effect...that is, striations in the subdial's texture seem to radiate from the center outward. Subdials on the originals are simply semi-gloss gray with no texturing effect whatsoever.
I'd say that one has an aftermarket dial.
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Post by schillachi61 on Nov 7, 2015 3:52:36 GMT -8
The 6138-8020 should indeed have a 'linen dial', which means subtle texture lines running north-south, as Adrian so ably pointed out. What bothers me about the OP's mystery watch is the subdials. Aftermarket dials have blackish subdials with a 'sunburst' effect...that is, striations in the subdial's texture seem to radiate from the center outward. Subdials on the originals are simply semi-gloss gray with no texturing effect whatsoever. I'd say that one has an aftermarket dial. I agree Spot on.................. |
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