Seiko Manual Wind

[earthphase]

Are there any manual wind Seikos?

Thank you.

[lordflagpolecrabtree]

Loads !

New or vintage ?

[ninja01]

Many of my Japanese collection are manual wind!! Seiko, Citizen, Orient, and Ricoh/Takano made many mid to high quality hand-wind models/movements in the '50s, '60s, & '70s!! First Japanese automatics (with Japanese designed & manufactured calibre) weren't around until 2nd half of the '50s.

Some examples:

1. Seiko:
early -> mid '60s higher quality










Movement shot is from another example in my collection. This is the "1st Generation" un-numbered calibre which preceeded the 44A and 4402. The 4402 shown earlier is the Date version of the 44A, which like the "1st Generation" had no calendar.




late'50s, the hi-end of Seiko product line (before intro of Grand Seiko):


side view of another example of same model in my collection:

and what the "Lord" developed out of, the "Marvel" (came in 17, 19, and 21 jewel variants):


The Marvel was introduced by Seiko (Hattori Corp.) on "Time Memorial Day" in mid 1956!!

A slightly later version of Marvel, also 19j but with Diashock instead of the earlier shock protection system:



From the Daini division in the mid to late '50s:
Seiko UNIQUE U14012 15j

This movement is much like the Suwa division's Super, the predecessor to their Marvel.

appears to be a vintage re-dial from Japan(?) with quirky spelling of a Citizen model name!!


and a later generation of Lord Marvel (early to mid '60s) using the 5740 movement after the Marvel architecture was retired:



late '60s to '70s higher quality items:


36,000bph on this one!!

2. Orient
mid '50s to about 1960:



top-of-the line models of early '60s:

Royal, here in it's Calendar version




Grand Prix hand-wind (there were also automatics in this line):


Also came in non-calendar variant as well.

3. Citizen
ca 1949 to mid '50s:

"ladder dial" typical of the period from various manufacturers:


higher quality early '60s:


Sorry, no movement shot.

I'll also direct you to my "Philippine Gems" thread for more:

wristsushi.proboards.com/thread/4820/philippine-gems?page=1

I may have other threads with more hand-wind vintage posted in them as well, just search my posts.

[Deleted]

6138 movements are manual wind and auto wind if your looking for a more modern watch.

I have this manual wind from 1960 which keeps excellent time and is lovely to wear:

66-8050



or this 6138-0011 from '71


this 6138-0030 from '76


a 6138-3002 from '72


All of those are manual wind but the 66-8050 is manual wind only.

[ninja01]

RE: "6138 movements are manual wind and auto wind if your looking for a more modern watch."

True, there are "dual action" watches, I was interpreting the "manual wind" in a very strict sense.

Now for more modern items in my collection that are indeed hand-wind only:


a ca. 1970 2559 "Queen Seiko" hi-beat (28.8Kbhp) movement in a unisex case!! Actually, I think these were sold as Men's watches back in the day. These are actually a rather high quality movement, despite the relative lack of appreciation for these today.

Here is a sample movement shot (not one of my own shown):


2nd of mine ...
2559-3189 [Gold tone case & bracelet, despite what pics seem to show]


I have posted catalog shots somewhere here before, I'm looking for them. Ahh, here we go, it the following thread:

wristsushi.proboards.com/thread/5241/turned-mail

I'll put them here again:


Mine are in the 2nd pic, the 67027M and the 67028M.

Queen Seiko actually did exist as a model/family name as you can see in the following shot of a Women's model based on the cal. 330 hand-wind:




I suppose that was supposed to be the "partner" to the Men's "King Seiko" in the rather high-quality area of early '60s Seiko product line, the Grand Seiko line (highest end) did indeed also have a hand-wind Women's series!! They were 36,000bph and AFAIK, the ONLY (meaning, from ANY manufacturer in the world) "womens" watches that came in that ultra-hi-beat type of movement. In the low end of that series was the cal. 1944 Chronometer (not marked as GS):



There were also the 1964 (GS) and 1984 (GS VFA) for Women which had increasingly tight accuracy standards out of the factory!!

One last shot, a watch magazine page showing 2 hi-end Seiko hand-winds. On top is the 1st Generation Men's Grand Seiko, the calibre 3180. On bottom is a 1964 Women's Grand Seiko!!

[earthphase]

Wow guys. Thank you.

Just for clarity, I was initially inquiring about any modern Seikos that only hand wind.

Great info in these replies. Thank you for a great read.

[ninja01]

Oct 18, 2014 4:49:55 GMT -8 earthphase said:

Just for clarity, I was initially inquiring about any modern Seikos that only hand wind.

Great info in these replies. Thank you for a great read.

Well, if you will accept 10 to 15 year old designs as "modern", there are these from Credor line:

1. calibre 6870, ultra-thin [1.98mm]


2. calibre 6898


3. calibre 6899 [another ultra-thin, 1.98m]


4. 4S79


shown here as the 4S79-0050 Certified Chronometer



Others may have more info on actual current production in less expensive lines, but those are the types I know of.

[J. F. Sebastian]

Can't believe this was posted just a few days before my "manual wind marathon".  What a maroon!  Sorry for cluttering the board instead of just jumping on this train.