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Post by pip on Oct 24, 2022 21:59:41 GMT -8
And just in time for International Pogue Day which as always is on November 16th!
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Post by camrok on Oct 24, 2022 23:42:51 GMT -8
And just in time for International Pogue Day which as always is on November 16th! I read through this thread today. I have a sneaking suspicion you might be to blame for initiating International Pogue day. I’m looking forward to it and may have to get a new crystal or polish this one in preparation.
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Post by pip on Oct 25, 2022 1:25:48 GMT -8
And just in time for International Pogue Day which as always is on November 16th! I read through this thread today. I have a sneaking suspicion you might be to blame for initiating International Pogue day. I’m looking forward to it and may have to get a new crystal or polish this one in preparation. I am definitely to blame for IPD Cam, I can’t dodge that accusation! With a lot of help from Jonas since I first came up with the idea it has to be said.
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Post by HiBeat on Nov 16, 2022 7:09:20 GMT -8
2022's International Pogue Day has some AMAZING examples on display today. What a turnout !
Well done Phil !
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Post by Fergus on Jul 15, 2023 8:47:27 GMT -8
Just arrived, 6000, May 69 Proof proof and a one owner. Don't get much better.
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Post by saldog on Jul 15, 2023 9:30:12 GMT -8
Just arrived, May 69 Proof proof and a one owner. Don't get much better. Amazing find!
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Post by Fergus on Jul 16, 2023 8:36:14 GMT -8
You cannot always believe what these vintage guys serial number is telling us. It's not May 69 (95####) but after June at best.
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Post by saldog on Jul 16, 2023 8:57:04 GMT -8
You cannot always believe what these vintage guys serial number is telling us. It's not May 69 (95####) but after June at best. It looks like the 9 and 6 were stamped at different times (character height is different, looks like a different stamping machine did it). I envision the factory makes a bunch of dials and stamps the year and then later, the dial gets its month number stamped. Is it possible that both were made about the same time, but the dial stamp missed being in May by a day or two? I guess it all comes down to timing in the factory. The serial number on the case back is stamped, presumably in high volume. But the case backs are set aside and kitted up with the rest of the case parts and movement for assembly. That happens at maybe a totally different part of the plant or maybe even a different facility altogether. Same with dials. They are bound to get out of sync by what looks to us like a month but could actually be just one day. We’ve all seen dials a couple of months behind, but very few a month ahead. I sure would like to read about how Seiko pulled off manufacturing back then. I have to look around for some reading material.
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Post by HiBeat on Jul 16, 2023 9:07:46 GMT -8
I wouldn't stress the 95 case back with 96 dial.
It's a beauty and OEM.
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Post by Fergus on Jul 16, 2023 12:01:26 GMT -8
Another interesting aspect of this watch is that the 6000 case precisely matches the Seiko Watch Technical Guide, Screw 2, in that it does not have the wave washer that sits between the holding ring for gasket and the rotating dial ring. Previously, when tinkering 6002 versions with 6139B movements, I thought Seiko had missed it out on the drawing. I therefore suspect all early 6000's with 6139A movements may well be the same.
Having completed disassembly all parts are very good and appear untouched. It will require upjewelling, a new mainspring and the crystal refinishing. It also came on its original straight H link bracelet with rolled end links.
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Post by Fergus on Jul 16, 2023 20:50:46 GMT -8
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Post by SeikoPsycho on Jul 17, 2023 1:51:14 GMT -8
Outer bezel is not original to that watch which makes one wonder about the rest of the Story..............
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Post by Fergus on Jul 17, 2023 4:00:35 GMT -8
Outer bezel is not original to that watch which makes one wonder about the rest of the Story.............. Is that the marker at 60 ? in that it should not have one. It also appear RA did not fit the necessary extra barrel arbor jewels...unless of course it had already been done
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Post by HiBeat on Jul 17, 2023 4:53:28 GMT -8
You cannot always believe what these vintage guys serial number is telling us. It's not May 69 (95####) but after June at best. It looks like the 9 and 6 were stamped at different times (character height is different, looks like a different stamping machine did it). I envision the factory makes a bunch of dials and stamps the year and then later, the dial gets its month number stamped. Is it possible that both were made about the same time, but the dial stamp missed being in May by a day or two? I guess it all comes down to timing in the factory. The serial number on the case back is stamped, presumably in high volume. But the case backs are set aside and kitted up with the rest of the case parts and movement for assembly. That happens at maybe a totally different part of the plant or maybe even a different facility altogether. Same with dials. They are bound to get out of sync by what looks to us like a month but could actually be just one day. We’ve all seen dials a couple of months behind, but very few a month ahead. I sure would like to read about how Seiko pulled off manufacturing back then. I have to look around for some reading material. Here on WristSushi: wristsushi.proboards.com/post/266338And over on TOF: www.thewatchsite.com/threads/blue-6139-6010-rebuild-with-a-very-special-dial-that-no-6139-wis-could-possibly-resist.345395/#post-3008116
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Post by Fergus on Jul 17, 2023 5:51:19 GMT -8
Outer bezel is not original to that watch which makes one wonder about the rest of the Story.............. Try mentioning it to the seller and you'll get a sarcastic reply...well I did anyway. In short FO and don't bid then .
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Post by SeikoPsycho on Jul 17, 2023 8:36:00 GMT -8
Outer bezel is not original to that watch which makes one wonder about the rest of the Story.............. Try mentioning it to the seller and you'll get a sarcastic reply...well I did anyway. In short FO and don't bid then . The outer bezel, with the marker under the "60" is from a 76' + up model.
His reply tells you all you need to know about the seller and the watch.
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Post by Fergus on Jul 17, 2023 21:57:49 GMT -8
Thanks Tom, Interesting info on the crystals. wristsushi.proboards.com/thread/20334/330w18gn-comprehensive-crystal-reviewI recently bought a flat glass, not for immediate use, only because it was there to be had. I have fitted many S&K's and found them acceptable for the money. I would like to keep this 6000 as near as possible to OEM so I'll polish it and see how it looks. It has some edge chips which I may be able to reduce.
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Post by inscription on Jul 22, 2023 11:30:22 GMT -8
I couldn't resist watching this auction tick down, particularly after reading the comments about the tachy bezel being incorrect. It sold for £855 The Bank of England inflation calculator shows that the original retail price of £45 in 1973 is equivalent to £465 today.
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Post by Fergus on Jul 22, 2023 11:52:58 GMT -8
I couldn't resist watching this auction tick down, particularly after reading the comments about the tachy bezel being incorrect. It sold for £855 The Bank of England inflation calculator shows that the original retail price of £45 in 1973 is equivalent to £465 today. WOW, I had planned to see it finish but missed because I was hunting down a n other Seiko. So it had been serviced and by one of our known guys but the receipt did not mention upjewelling. I consider this a necessity for these old boys. Unless of course it had already been done by one of the many tinkers. Also service sheet states 6139A when the watch is fitted with 6139B.
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Post by inscription on Jul 22, 2023 13:04:21 GMT -8
Regardless of any anomalies with the watch, the seller has excellent marketing skills. But who the hell keeps old fag coupon catalogues for 50 years......... clearly a hoarder. References to Green Shield stamps in his next listing perhaps.
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