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Post by estrickland on Mar 29, 2017 6:57:51 GMT -8
I reached out to Joe Kirk to settle the production volume question and he confirmed that there will be 2000 units total, not 2000 SLA017 and 2000 SBDX019. It is possible that he is misinformed, but highly unlikely. No messaging from Seilo has ever been other than 2000 pieces. Maybe Anthony can share his source for the 4000 total unit report. Im sorry Im now confused..... Isn't SLA017 the ref # of the new 62MAS resissue? What is SBDX019? SLA017 is the international product code, SBDX019 is the JDM product code. From Joe "The SLA017 and SBDX019 are the same exact model, just different product codes for the region. So only 2000 total 62mas recreations total. " |
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Post by earthphase on Mar 29, 2017 9:15:30 GMT -8
Mock ups had a bracelet in the box... will it be sold with strap and bracelet?
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Post by Molle on Mar 29, 2017 10:09:00 GMT -8
Mock ups had a bracelet in the box... will it be sold with strap and bracelet? That is correct! |
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Post by HiBeat on Mar 29, 2017 16:38:09 GMT -8
I reached out to Joe Kirk to settle the production volume question and he confirmed that there will be 2000 units total, not 2000 SLA017 and 2000 SBDX019. It is possible that he is misinformed, but highly unlikely. No messaging from Seilo has ever been other than 2000 pieces. Maybe Anthony can share his source for the 4000 total unit report. Joe is THE Man. If he says it's 1,000 of each model number then I am back in. |
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Post by HiBeat on Mar 29, 2017 16:49:07 GMT -8
From Joe "The SLA017 and SBDX019 are the same exact model, just different product codes for the region. So only 2000 total 62mas recreations total. " I bet the case back codes will be identical too. This defines the reference in my book. That was the case with the SRQ021/SARK003 dual model numbers. They marketed 1,000 pcs of each but with exact same case back codes thus just boils down to they made 2,000 of the reference. |
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Post by ajkrik on Mar 29, 2017 18:09:20 GMT -8
I wonder how long they will last . . .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 18:22:02 GMT -8
I wonder how long they will last . . . If you are referring to the new movements; I'm willing to bet they will not be as long lived and trouble free as the 6xxx series or the 7xxx series up to and including the 7s26A. It does not make good business sense for Seiko to continue making watches that will work trouble free for 30 to 40 years...that is a bad business model. We have already seen how cost reduction and inventory rationalization has wreaked havoc on the 7s26B and later movements based on it. It may come to the point where even Seiko watchmaker gurus will not want to bother with the newer movements(I'm talking about the entry level crap). |
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Post by estrickland on Mar 29, 2017 18:52:30 GMT -8
I reached out to Joe Kirk to settle the production volume question and he confirmed that there will be 2000 units total, not 2000 SLA017 and 2000 SBDX019. It is possible that he is misinformed, but highly unlikely. No messaging from Seilo has ever been other than 2000 pieces. Maybe Anthony can share his source for the 4000 total unit report. Joe is THE Man. If he says it's 1,000 of each model number then I am back in. It could be 1000 of each but he wasn't that specific. He just said it was 2000 total. I don't know the relative allocation, how the serial numbers are partitioned, etc... |
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Post by ajkrik on Mar 30, 2017 5:52:51 GMT -8
I wonder how long they will last . . . If you are referring to the new movements; I'm willing to bet they will not be as long lived and trouble free as the 6xxx series or the 7xxx series up to and including the 7s26A. It does not make good business sense for Seiko to continue making watches that will work trouble free for 30 to 40 years...that is a bad business model. We have already seen how cost reduction and inventory rationalization has wreaked havoc on the 7s26B and later movements based on it. It may come to the point where even Seiko watchmaker gurus will not want to bother with the newer movements(I'm talking about the entry level crap). Interesting. No, I was wondering how long the 2000 would remain available or how fast they'd sell out. But your comment makes me wonder about the general direction of Seiko. I can see it would be challenging for them. On the one hand they can sell low-end movements to Chinese case makers that sell for $3.00 with free shipping. On the other end, perhaps this re-issue is an example, maybe they want to more into the high priced "luxury" end. I don't know much about the business end of this. Thanks for your comment. |
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Post by earthphase on Mar 30, 2017 5:56:55 GMT -8
I wonder how long they will last . . . If you are referring to the new movements; I'm willing to bet they will not be as long lived and trouble free as the 6xxx series or the 7xxx series up to and including the 7s26A. It does not make good business sense for Seiko to continue making watches that will work trouble free for 30 to 40 years...that is a bad business model. We have already seen how cost reduction and inventory rationalization has wreaked havoc on the 7s26B and later movements based on it. It may come to the point where even Seiko watchmaker gurus will not want to bother with the newer movements(I'm talking about the entry level crap). I disagree with your comment about reliability being a bad business model. Purposely making something to inevitably fail is a bad business model. Reliability, and hence value, define Seiko. I hope that Seiko stays true to their founding principals - as of now we have no reason to believe they won't. |
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Post by Mr.Jones on Mar 30, 2017 5:59:29 GMT -8
The blue MM300 also had this double model number / double LE scheme. How was the limitation done in that case?
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Post by HiBeat on Mar 30, 2017 10:45:48 GMT -8
Gee, what's this do to original 62mas prices.I can't see the value in this re-issue compared to say a Tudor Black Bay.Cheers Phil Curse You Phil ! You planted the seed and it grew into this:  Ha-ha ! Now I won't have to hang by the phone wondering if my 62MAS re-issue came in or not. Well, maybe I need both...... |
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Post by Myles on Mar 30, 2017 11:40:21 GMT -8
Very nice! Have you tried the textile strap? |
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Post by bizkid on Apr 3, 2017 5:25:28 GMT -8
Hi to all the experts here, after reading all the comments, is it true that the two model numbers are just their references numbers? So the 62-mas reissue would look the same as the pic and no differences in the dial or back cases? pls kidny advise. Thanks.
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Post by estrickland on Apr 3, 2017 11:42:05 GMT -8
Hi to all the experts here, after reading all the comments, is it true that the two model numbers are just their references numbers? So the 62-mas reissue would look the same as the pic and no differences in the dial or back cases? pls kidny advise. Thanks. From Joe Kirk, they're the exact same watch. No difference to dial or back. Caseback doesn't have SLA017/SBDX019 on it, so it's not hard to believe:  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 22:06:01 GMT -8
My gut tells me the reason why they are making 2000 pcs is to conduct a water testing or is not it?
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Post by scubarob99 on Apr 8, 2017 2:16:15 GMT -8
My gut tells me the reason why they are making 2000 pcs is to conduct a water testing or is not it? I'm thinking it's because it's a limited edition of 2000.  Rob |
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Post by jguitron on Apr 8, 2017 3:01:16 GMT -8
My gut tells me the reason why they are making 2000 pcs is to conduct a water testing or is not it? That's a nice thought but then, why would they release the bigger brother? |
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Post by HiBeat on Apr 13, 2017 18:35:36 GMT -8
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Post by Groundhog66 on Apr 17, 2017 10:09:57 GMT -8
Super-cool .pdf of the Press Release here, click to open in Adobe Acrobat Reader: You will see the 6R15 powered variants are $800 USD rubber and $1,000 USD on SS. I wouldn't pay $1K for the turd, not even close. |
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